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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/projectwise/f/projectwise-di-forum/233034/workflowing-a-dgn-state-to-state-is-very-slow-using-projectwise-explorer-client-version-10-00-03-453</link><description>Workflowing a DGN drawing from from one workflow state to the next state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453. 
 It is taking about 30 seconds, where-as with ProjectWise Explorer Client version 08.11.11.590 it takes 2-3</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766993?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 01:53:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:a72db134-d669-4df4-8b8a-1b9bb69bcf59</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I see.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for your input.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766989?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 01:36:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:604e016f-2601-4930-8b4a-a1d03bca3571</guid><dc:creator>Sujaan Fareed</dc:creator><description>&lt;p data-userway-font-size="12" data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled="true"&gt;We are using a Bentley Managed service.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766972?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 21:18:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8f779827-073f-4c73-8833-3f59f480db97</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That is interesting.&amp;nbsp; You say you&amp;#39;re on&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Server version&amp;nbsp;3.721.&amp;nbsp; But it seems the&amp;nbsp;latest ProjectWise Design Integration Server that can be downloaded from the Bentley downloads&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;10.00.03.334.&amp;nbsp; Have you got a later version off Bentley&amp;#39;s ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766970?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 21:02:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:f27a7a45-c359-4a15-9778-58aafad55d4b</guid><dc:creator>Sujaan Fareed</dc:creator><description>&lt;p data-userway-font-size="12" data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled="true"&gt;Server is 3.721 and did not notice much difference after that update. Bentley was able to verify the issue is related PW Client software specific to versions higher than 03.434 including 03.453. Our primary case of testing has been folder navigation, and we see longer times with folders that have PW Environments assigned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766969?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 20:56:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:f2de5b03-ceac-4b88-a94e-df6c92660021</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:inherit;"&gt;Hi Sujaan,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:inherit;"&gt;We are currently using PW Explorer client 10.00.03.271, which allows us to use MicroStation CE release 17 and our older ProjectWise&amp;nbsp;Server version 10.00.03.140 in the&amp;nbsp;backend.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s OK but a couple of slight bugs that we have to work around, but not an issue really.&amp;nbsp; The work&amp;nbsp;flowing is a little slower than it used to be, but not as bad as with&amp;nbsp;PW Explorer client&amp;nbsp;version 10.00.03.453.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:inherit;"&gt;We will eventually update our ProjectWise&amp;nbsp;Server backend, then maybe client&amp;nbsp;version 10.00.03.453 or later will work OK.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:inherit;"&gt;What PW server version are you using ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:inherit;"&gt;Cheers, Andrew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766967?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 20:38:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:bb78eb19-2de6-4ccb-9222-6c64a53e7ef4</guid><dc:creator>Sujaan Fareed</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Andrew,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have done extensive testing to identify several performance issues with PW 04.434 and suspect similar problems with later versions. We have had to roll back. Bentley has been telling me we are the only customer complaining, but I see that is not the case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/723398?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 00:33:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:f57ccb58-5f97-4341-b128-424b70e68939</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi David,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are using the Workflow Rules Engine.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for your comments on that.&amp;nbsp; Because we have no issues with the old&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;ProjectWise Explorer Client version 08.11.11.590,&amp;nbsp;which is pointing at the exact same server, it makes me wonder what has changed in the new PWE client to cause the issue.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Cheers, Andrew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/723396?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 00:04:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c1324957-b2a2-4e15-8b47-bd2a6b8a4aac</guid><dc:creator>David Nicholson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew, Are you referring to standard PW or WRE workflows?&amp;nbsp; With a hosted DI (10.00.03.721) and endpoints using PWE 10.00.03.434 with uStn Update 16, we have no issues.&amp;nbsp; We do make extensive use of WRE and it was almost unusable until processing moved from Client to Server.&amp;nbsp; Agree with Kevin, I dont think its the .453 version of&amp;nbsp; PWE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/723152?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2022 21:00:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:45c7eec4-c174-4cdb-a4a3-5b5dc59407f4</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Phil,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that feedback.&amp;nbsp; We do have full text search on so there will be some load on the server with that.&amp;nbsp; Our actual database resides on another server.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the fact that via&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;the older ProjectWise Explorer Client version 08.11.11.590 it is all fine, makes me think it&amp;#39;s something&amp;nbsp;else going on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;During the time that&amp;nbsp;ProjectWise&amp;nbsp;is trying to do the workflow there is no change or spike in the CPU usage on the&amp;nbsp;ProjectWise&amp;nbsp;Server machine.&amp;nbsp; In fact hard to see any CPU usage due to that process at all.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That&amp;#39;s doing it using either the old PW client or the new PW client.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;So I guess we&amp;#39;ll see what Bentley&amp;#39;s have to say.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Regards, Andrew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/723134?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:23:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:f0782905-eccd-4567-b583-d5a626d4df2b</guid><dc:creator>Phil Conard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That PWDI Server version is 5 years old. Many performance improvements around WRE were introduced in the 3.2 servers. I would strongly recommend upgrading the PWDI server version to get the latest performance improvements for WRE. Also, do you have indexing on the integration server or is indexing offloaded to a secondary server? Indexing can be a resource hog and will degrade the performance of a PWDI Integration server. Here are the instructions on how to move your indexing to a secondary server:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/ProjectWise%20Administrator%20Help-v11/en/GUID-7FF8C58B-30E0-6500-2CC8-A2418444E79A.html"&gt;https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/ProjectWise%20Administrator%20Help-v11/en/GUID-7FF8C58B-30E0-6500-2CC8-A2418444E79A.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/722986?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2022 20:57:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:86ff6017-829f-4a08-a5e2-0d74ddba9af3</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Beer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reply Kevin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There was no traffic on the server at&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;the time.&amp;nbsp; We do have some security rights tied to the workflow states.&amp;nbsp; We do have&amp;nbsp;full text indexing on.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s quicker with pure raster files at about 4-5 seconds.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Our PW server is at version 10.00.03.140.&amp;nbsp; Because it&amp;#39;s still the same normal speed using the old ProjectWise Explorer Client version 08.11.11.590, which is all using the same server, database and background process&amp;#39;s it appears to be something&amp;nbsp;the 10.00.03.453 version doesn&amp;#39;t like.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I have raised a ticket for this.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Cheers, Andrew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Workflowing a DGN state to state is very slow using ProjectWise Explorer Client version 10.00.03.453</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/722983?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2022 15:25:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:92aa3cbe-b606-427c-89c0-985d50ec40d6</guid><dc:creator>Kevin van Haaren</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think it&amp;#39;s just 453 that is causing your problem. We don&amp;#39;t use workflows extensively so I&amp;#39;ve only got a basic workflow setup in my testing datasource. No security ties to it, just 5 states to progress thru.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Test was with servers&amp;nbsp;at 10.00.03.280, client is 10.00.03.453, i don&amp;#39;t think MicroStation version matters but I have Update 17 installed. I moved a dgn file back and forth between different states 5 or 6 times and each took a few seconds only, not even close to 5 seconds let alone 30.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Possible issues:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I&amp;#39;m testing this at a time when there is very little ProjectWise traffic on our network&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I&amp;#39;m using newer servers than you&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#39;ll probably need to open a ticket with Bentley to see if you can identify the particular issue. Things like load on the integration server have to be considered. If you&amp;#39;re doing full text indexing or other file processing on the integration server that could affect this. Or maybe the issue is with your database server being overloaded.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>