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    ProjectWise PDF on-demand. mobile connectivity, and QR codes

    Stuart Nicholson
    Stuart Nicholson over 12 years ago

    To the ProjectWise development team.

    John Schown visited the UK last week and gave a very good insight into the ProjectWise roadmap for 2011/2012.  Part of the roadmap includes on-demand PDF generation and mobile connectivity to ProjectWise.

    An idea is currently being discussed in my organisation that revolves around the use of QR codes.  If a QR code could be printed on a drawing PDF, as part of the PDF on-demand function from ProjectWise, the code could then be scanned by the engineer who is reviewing the document. This would access a URL to a ProjectWise mobile page. The page would provide commands allowing the engineer to accept or reject the document directly through their mobile device, and the response would then update the drawing's workflow status.

    This has come about because it is apparent that many engineers do not like using on-screen review tools and processes, and some engineers do not even want to interact with ProjectWise Explorer.  So, we are looking for ways to provide simply connectivity from a paper review process.

    I was wondering if the ProjectWise development team have discussed any similar ideas?  Perhaps this is something that would be built into the dynamic review process using the digital pens, rather than QR codes?

    Stuart.

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    • Kevin van Haaren
      Offline Kevin van Haaren Thu, Feb 10 2011 10:55 PM

      I like the ability to embed a QR code into generated PDFs with the URN of the file that generated the PDF but I'm not sure it would work for this particular workflow.

      A workflow of:

      Review sheet, use phone to scan QR code, accept/reject document, <get info back to projectwise>

      seems more cumbersome, and for a rejected document there wouldn't be any markups to correct the drawing, those would have to be communicated seperately. The workflow with the pen is:

      Review sheet, mark up with pen, dock pen (can be done by someone else), markups automatically propgated to the original drawing for review.  If a drawing is approved, a checkmark can be placed on the document (or a signature) to give a positive indicator it was reviewed and accepted.

      I can see the ability to pair a pen with a mobile device so markups could be automatically sent back via e-mail (the pen software currently supports sending markups via e-mail but requires a PC doesn't work with mobile) as being a great work around for this too.

      The QR route requires some programming from Bentley, including adding the QR code, and the mobile application for populating data back to ProjectWise, but the dynamic pen can be implemented today already (except for the pairing with a mobile device which would require work if you wanted to use that.)

       

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    • Kevin van Haaren
      Offline Kevin van Haaren Thu, Feb 10 2011 10:55 PM

      I like the ability to embed a QR code into generated PDFs with the URN of the file that generated the PDF but I'm not sure it would work for this particular workflow.

      A workflow of:

      Review sheet, use phone to scan QR code, accept/reject document, <get info back to projectwise>

      seems more cumbersome, and for a rejected document there wouldn't be any markups to correct the drawing, those would have to be communicated seperately. The workflow with the pen is:

      Review sheet, mark up with pen, dock pen (can be done by someone else), markups automatically propgated to the original drawing for review.  If a drawing is approved, a checkmark can be placed on the document (or a signature) to give a positive indicator it was reviewed and accepted.

      I can see the ability to pair a pen with a mobile device so markups could be automatically sent back via e-mail (the pen software currently supports sending markups via e-mail but requires a PC doesn't work with mobile) as being a great work around for this too.

      The QR route requires some programming from Bentley, including adding the QR code, and the mobile application for populating data back to ProjectWise, but the dynamic pen can be implemented today already (except for the pairing with a mobile device which would require work if you wanted to use that.)

       

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    • Stuart Nicholson
      Stuart Nicholson Fri, Feb 11 2011 11:39 AM in reply to Kevin van Haaren

      Kevin.

      Thanks for your comments.

      Storing the actual mark-up would be nice, and thus the digital pen technology is probably the way forward. We might offer this solution on some projects. However, the cost of the digital pen technology is generally perceived as prohibitive in an organisation of our size.

      Normally, our engineers  would simply convey the mark-up in paper form to a local CAD Technician. If it needs to be conveyed further afield then the mark-up might be scanned to PDF and uploaded to ProjectWise manually. I still see a lot of mileage in a simple QR code approve/reject capability in these instances.

      We appreciate there are lots of digital review solutions out there (digital pens, Navigator and i-models, adobe mark-up tools etc. etc.), but we have a continual problem where many engineers do not want to be distracted by technology and so they resist the use of digital review processes. Hence the search for relatively low-tech solutions that still enable us to record and track document progress in the DMS.

      Stuart.

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    • Kevin van Haaren
      Offline Kevin van Haaren Fri, Feb 11 2011 5:39 PM in reply to Stuart Nicholson

      we've found the ones that don't want to be distracted by technology (and we have lots of them as well) prefer the pen.  They use the pen, mark stuff up, hand the pen to the technician and keep the paper for their own reference. They don't even have to touch a computer.

      The pen seems cheaper than giving them a mobile device would be (unless you already give them mobile devices, some of our engineers get them, some don't).  And we share the pen among several users.

       

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