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ProjectWise Design Integration Forum Unable to handle multiple sheet drawings .. ?!
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    Unable to handle multiple sheet drawings .. ?!

    Mikkel Bennedbaek
    Offline Mikkel Bennedbaek over 12 years ago

    Hi There!

    I was just wondering when it would be possible to handle multiple title blocks in dgn files with multible sheets?

    It is common to have the same title block  tag set in several sheets but as far as I know, ProjectWIse can only handle one (or all as it was one).

     

    This would of cause require one unique id for each sheet (besides of the document id) and a corrosponding atrribute page for each sheet, but it would be a great improvement! (No need for more than one attribute page in the dialog - instead there should be "Next sheet"- /  "Previous sheet"- buttons in that!)

    Sheet names could be added to the tag name in ProjectWise so they would maintain unique for ProjectWise and the db, eg.: SHEET1|drwdate, SHEET2|drwdate, ...

     

    Please let me know if aboe is all rubbish an nonsense to you guys .. :)

     

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    • shenry
      Offline shenry Sun, Mar 20 2011 11:29 PM +2
      I would also like to see this functionality included with ProjectWise. Requested it eight years ago, and our Bentley rep documented the solution. Looked like it was going to be incorporated but then..…
    • @B, Carl Broyles
      Offline @B, Carl Broyles Wed, Jan 24 2018 10:34 AM in reply to Jeff Burrill +2
      It should be a TR - 7 years 12,464 views, 26 replies, no solution? Any file can have multiple attribute "sheets". This concept has been in ProjectWise since forever. But we have never had a way to utilize…
    • David Keam
      David Keam Mon, Mar 21 2011 2:19 AM in reply to Scott Turner +1
      I believe this is a significant oversight by Bentley. Multiple models have been part of the dgn file format since V8 and that's a long time. InRoads has been generating multiple cross-section sheets in…
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    • Mikkel Bennedbaek
      Offline Mikkel Bennedbaek Sun, Apr 3 2011 11:22 AM

      Hi again! At least great to know that I am far from alone struggling with this issue :)

      Just to keep you all informed...

      I made a CR on this some time ago, but last week a had a remote session with Jutin Jussal from Bentley where I descriped the issue/wish in details supported by example file / illustration.

      When he gets back to me I will remember to keep you guys all informed, but meanwhile I recommend that you also submit CR's, as I am not sure that Bentley realy understands how what great improvement that support for multible sheets in ProjectWise would be... :)

      You will here from me soon...

      Mikkel

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    • Scott Soper
      Offline Scott Soper Mon, Apr 4 2011 9:24 PM in reply to Mikkel Bennedbaek

      If you give us the CR number we can add our names to it.

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    • Mikkel Bennedbaek
      Offline Mikkel Bennedbaek Tue, Jul 5 2011 12:53 PM in reply to Scott Soper

      CR 319918: User wants PW to work on DWG projects where several sheets in one file are used

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    • Scott Soper
      Offline Scott Soper Thu, Jul 7 2011 4:22 PM in reply to Mikkel Bennedbaek

      Mikkel, do you mean DGN projects or are you working in Autocad?

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    • Bob Hanson
      Offline Bob Hanson Wed, Aug 3 2011 8:07 PM in reply to Scott Soper

      We also would like to be able to have title block integration for multiple sheets in one file - both MicroStation and AutoCAD.

      I did a search for the CR but came up empty.  How do I locate the CR and add us to the list.

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    • Bob Hanson
      Offline Bob Hanson Wed, Aug 3 2011 8:07 PM in reply to Scott Soper

      We also would like to be able to have title block integration for multiple sheets in one file - both MicroStation and AutoCAD.

      I did a search for the CR but came up empty.  How do I locate the CR and add us to the list.

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    • Dean Lyon
      Offline Dean Lyon Mon, Oct 10 2011 1:58 PM in reply to Bob Hanson

      title block integration works for both Microstation and AutoCAD. All you have to do is setup the definitions in the Administrator.  You can bind like definitions to the same fields if you wish.  So I would assume that mulitple sheets working for one would work for the other as well.

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    • shenry
      Offline shenry Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:52 AM in reply to Dean Lyon

      Dean,

      The issue discussed below relates to having a DGN or DWG file containing multiple titleblocks that need to be populated with different information. This is an issue for both MicroStation and AutoCAD products.

      My take on this topic is that, Ideally, Individual ProjectWise Attribute Sheets need to be 'linked' to an identified instance of a Tag Set(or Attribute Block). This would support MicroStation's existing ability to generate multiple cross sections etc.

      Obviously if it was always a fixed number of titleblocks, per DGN, several Attribute Exchange definitions could be created i.e. TB1, TB2, TB3..... etc. This however, amongst other issues, would result in redundancy of attributes needed to populate the tags that contain information specific to that instance of the titleblock. Hence it is not a suitable long term solution to the issue.

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    • Mikkel Bennedbaek
      Offline Mikkel Bennedbaek Tue, Dec 27 2011 11:15 AM in reply to Dean Lyon

      DeanLyon, the problem is that PW in practise can only handle one model in one file when it comes to title block intergration. Multible sheets has lived in MicroStation (and ACAD) for more than a decade, so a litle strange PW can not handle it i think. And no.. no plans to correct this (huge lack in functionality) with The next release what I am informed...

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    • Dean Lyon
      Offline Dean Lyon Wed, Dec 28 2011 8:45 PM in reply to Mikkel Bennedbaek

      I get what you are trying to do now.  You want 1 to N inserts of the same title block or cell and have ProjectWise fill in each separate instance with from the multiple sheets on the document, since you can have multiple sheets on a document.  I wonder how they are going to tie the insert to the sheet that is supposed to fill it.

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    • shenry
      Offline shenry Sun, Jan 1 2012 5:36 AM in reply to Mikkel Bennedbaek

      " no plans to correct this (huge lack in functionality) with The next release what I am informed..."

      OUCH! .....

      Did a ProjectWise presentation to a prospective client recently and everything was going really well until I covered this topic. The client had a spreadsheet solution (had it for years) that addressed this specific issue and it would be an understatement to say that client's enthusiasm evaporated at that point.

      Have not heard from them since, so I guess no implementation role for me and no ProjectWise Software sale for Bentley.

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