Unable to handle multiple sheet drawings .. ?!

Hi again! At least great to know that I am far from alone struggling with this issue :)

Just to keep you all informed...

I made a CR on this some time ago, but last week a had a remote session with Jutin Jussal from Bentley where I descriped the issue/wish in details supported by example file / illustration.

When he gets back to me I will remember to keep you guys all informed, but meanwhile I recommend that you also submit CR's, as I am not sure that Bentley realy understands how what great improvement that support for multible sheets in ProjectWise would be... :)

You will here from me soon...

Mikkel

If you give us the CR number we can add our names to it.

" no plans to correct this (huge lack in functionality) with The next release what I am informed..."

OUCH! .....

Did a ProjectWise presentation to a prospective client recently and everything was going really well until I covered this topic. The client had a spreadsheet solution (had it for years) that addressed this specific issue and it would be an understatement to say that client's enthusiasm evaporated at that point.

Have not heard from them since, so I guess no implementation role for me and no ProjectWise Software sale for Bentley.

Now you have my curiosity piqued.  Can you tell us how the customer diferentiated between the inserts of blocks that have the same name?

We have several offices that have built in house solutions as well. One uses a spreadsheet and some vba, the other uses an Access database and MDL. Both of these offices use their existing solutions with ProjectWise. It does involve checking out all the sheet files to make bulk updates, but they had to make sure they were the only ones in the files without projectwise so it's a bit of a wash.

Due to the limitations of how text is handled with tags, the current implementation of title blocks would not work for us, even if they supported multiple sheets/models per file. They just aren't flexible enough. Instead something more along the lines of how MicroStation fields work is needed.

Kevin, are you saying that you need a dedicated order of fields, rather than named?  Do you think a benificial mapping would be for Enter Data Fields / Text Nodes (autoCAD) and with a list of fields to map.  Therefore,  updating  from PW to file and file to PW would map the first node/field to the first attribute listed untill all nodes are exhausted, going to each sequental sheet while unedited nodes exist, using the same list of attributes for each sheet.  Well, that is the way it was done in a program I had to maintain before tags came along in Microstation.  Should Bentley have an option that emulates this?

Kevin,

Ironically, your last suggestion is precisely what I am suggesting in my post yesterday (ProjectWise working with Project Explorer)- the PW team seriously needs to get on the ball with this. The fact that we do not have a solution that allows us to make references to other sheets that will dynamically update when we manage the other sheet's attributes (i.e., Project Explorer Links) via a management solution (i.e. ProjectWise) is honestly, absurd. Then add to that that there is no easy way to actually automatically keep a dynamic index sheet listing all of the individual sheets (i.e. Axiom's Title Block Manager)- we are just managing the same data in way too many places.

I'm not personally experienced to verify this, but I have been told Autodesk does this- might be time to consider our alternatives...

Kevin,

Ironically, your last suggestion is precisely what I am suggesting in my post yesterday (ProjectWise working with Project Explorer)- the PW team seriously needs to get on the ball with this. The fact that we do not have a solution that allows us to make references to other sheets that will dynamically update when we manage the other sheet's attributes (i.e., Project Explorer Links) via a management solution (i.e. ProjectWise) is honestly, absurd. Then add to that that there is no easy way to actually automatically keep a dynamic index sheet listing all of the individual sheets (i.e. Axiom's Title Block Manager)- we are just managing the same data in way too many places.

I'm not personally experienced to verify this, but I have been told Autodesk does this- might be time to consider our alternatives...