Create Sleepers (well those are called TIES)- incorrect prompt?

Hello,

I have used Create Sleepers in the past, it was working.

Now when  I open the dialogue, enter parameters for standard scalloped concrete ties, the pesky prompt attached to the cursor keeps asking SELECT EXISTING RAIL TRACK instead of Select Track Centerline.

When I try to select track alignment in 2D, it says 'Element is in a model not allowed for this tool'. If I select in 3D model, it says 'Element not valid for the tool'. Is there any sane way to figure this out, which model to use, which element to use????? 

There is PDF in the training dataset but it says nothing about what model to use for this routine and what elements are qualified for it. 

Another thing: I have alignments in 2D model. If I need them in 3D, how do I transfer them into 3D? What a mess.....

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  • yes correct. Railways and routes are more the rail network model. Railtrack is the track structure (without ballast)



  • I would strongly suggest Bentley to create 'cheat sheet', a vocabulary of terminology used in the program (hopefully written by native English speakers, not ESL!), explaining what those are, what they do, and where and how to use them. Better be within the program itself, not elsewhere on the website requiring a lot of extra time to find.

    Unfortunately, Help contents and reference items do not explain commands, but rather repeat what command says in the menu which is very vague. Not much help, isn't it.... 

    Now, later versions (Open series) introduced all these weird manipulations with keys (alt, shift, ctrl, space bar, whatever else...) that should be just simple mouse clicks somewhere in one place. Can never remember what those keys do, and certainly can't understand the logic behind this routine if any. Is there a cheat sheet for those? Generally, key-in methodology is so outdated, like archaic DOS, and so annoyingly autocad-ish thus counterproductive!

    There must be a better help and guidance.

  • I do not disagree, just would suggest you always look at the bottom left of the Program when using ANY command. Within reason, it tells you what it wants you to do/click on or do. 

  • That bottom left message usually screams what not to do and what it does not accept, but it does not say what to do, or if does- vaguely. Just like in my case: how would I interpret a prompt for Rail Track without knowing exactly what it means and what to select. This is where cheat sheet explanation what Rail Track means would be essential and prudent: ok, select element associated with rails, behind the rail line, not the centerline.