Create Sleepers (well those are called TIES)- incorrect prompt?

Hello,

I have used Create Sleepers in the past, it was working.

Now when  I open the dialogue, enter parameters for standard scalloped concrete ties, the pesky prompt attached to the cursor keeps asking SELECT EXISTING RAIL TRACK instead of Select Track Centerline.

When I try to select track alignment in 2D, it says 'Element is in a model not allowed for this tool'. If I select in 3D model, it says 'Element not valid for the tool'. Is there any sane way to figure this out, which model to use, which element to use????? 

There is PDF in the training dataset but it says nothing about what model to use for this routine and what elements are qualified for it. 

Another thing: I have alignments in 2D model. If I need them in 3D, how do I transfer them into 3D? What a mess.....

  • I just did it in the latest version and did not have any issues. In the latest version, you have 2 feature definitions you have to select (one for centerline and one for inside edge) and a template for the rails. When you select all 3, you click on your alignment to generate the rails. It will generate the "Rail Track" you are looking for. Once the "Rail Track" is generated, you can create the sleepers.

  • I did all this training long ago, not just by videos, but Bentley did project-specific training for our company directly.  It was working back then. Now there is a different prompt, and it would not allow me to select track alignment- that's the whole point. Tried to submit tickets but they respond from somewhere abroad barely speaking English, collecting information saying they will respond or asking if I would want to do live session, and never getting back to  me after the initial response. Of course, the program terminology is totally foreign too.

    In a perfect world of training videos everything seems to be ship shape. In the reality of projects it turns out totally different. Training PDFs guiding through dataset and exercise are quite vague too.

  • I don't disagree with you. The training video for create sleepers simply says in the video to click on the rail track. Well, if one is trying to simply create sleepers and they watch that video, that isn't super helpful if you have missed a step.

    The short video segments should include requirements such as, to create sleepers you need an alignment with an active profile, a rail track that is generated by creating rails, etc.

    Whatever the case, upgrade to the latest version ASAP.

    2021R1 was a HOT MESS of a program. 2021R2 was somewhat workable, and 2022R1 appears to have fixed some things in 2021R2. Bentley appears to be heading in the correct direction from what I am seeing.

  • I used project-specific, developed by the client, feature definitions for centerlines (I have multiple tracks), so as for rails. It goes successfully through the rails creation routine (select alignment, select cant/ superelevation), then Create Ties generates different prompt- that little pesky, annoying pop-up little box attached to the cursor that wasn't there in SS10 or earlier. I can enter all tie parameters (there are all different concrete ties for freight Class Ones mains, facilities, and passenger lines) in the dialog but it would not allow selecting the alignment. Clearly the wording of the prompt is different from what training materials are showing. I can't really take a screen shot to illustrate since the prompt is up only when the cursor is within the field. The wording of this pesky prompt has changed, and I am not sure when and why, and I have not a faintest idea how to restore it back.

    Would that be anything to do with the alignment itself? Since Connect edition alignment tools are not as well controlled, having some hidden connections to graphical elements, I am not sure what and where to look for a problem.