Waffle Slab in RAM Concept

I am working on the analysis of an existing waffle slab structure.  I am using a RAM Concept model (started from RSS).  I have uploaded the model as Waffle_TDL.zip


I'm not sure I've got it set up right, an am looking for some guidance on a variety of subjects.  I have read the previous posts regarding waffle slabs (here and here) but am still left scratching my head.

-Analysis takes a very long time (2+ hours) even with a generous mesh size (6 feet).  Looking at my resource monitor, it seems that concept never goes over about 12%  of my CPU and only 1.mb RAM (out of 32 total), though I'm using the 64bit version.  I'm using the Pardiso solver.  Is there anything else I can do to speed up the analysis time? 

-I only have design strips and assigned rebar in the portion of the building that I'm interested in - there are some one way slabs outside the scope of my current study, but in the model. I'm also only running a validation analysis (not designing new bars)

-I'm not sure I've set up my priorities right, slab and drop cap as same priority, ribs as beams. Should the ribs also have priority assigned?

-Errors with shear reinforcing/shear cores.  I've modeled the shear bars as the existing shows, but have had my analysis fail with "overlapping shear bars" or something to that effect.

Any and all guidance is welcome.

Thanks,

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  • I think the Concept analysis is limited to a single core which might account for the limited CPU resources it claims. Using the 64 bit version and he Pardiso solver are good ideas. The other things I can think of to possibly speed things up are to:

    1. Remove any drawing files (file – Delete drawing)
    2. Mesh as large as possible while still getting the accuracy you need
    3. Remove non critical design strips, sections, or loadings
    4. Stop other applications
    5. Close all open Windows/tabs in Concept prior to a calc all.

    Assuming the rib beams are the thickest items, it doesn't matter if they are given a higher priority and meshed using the slab priority method or just meshed as beams. The result should be the same. You can always check the element perspective for confirmation of the final meshed structure.

    User shear bars are fairly new. Using them in narrow ribs, especially where design strips encompass multiple ribs could potentially be causing your problems, but we would need to see the model to judge. Use the Secure File upload link below left to send, and let me know what it's called when done.



  • Thanks Seth. As I mentioned in the original post, I have already uplaoded the file. I have also done all of those steps as outlined in other posts.

    Why call it a 64bit version, if it doesn't actually behave as one? I have a monster machine on my desktop that should gobble this sort of thing up.
  • I see the file now and I'm checking how long it takes on my machine using v5.2.



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