Checking max deflection?

Hello all,

I'm a student learning STAAD.Pro this semester.

I've done a beam model with two point loads applied. I've analyzed the model, but I haven't seen an output for what the actual value of max deflection in the beam is. 

How does STAAD display this?

Thank you.

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  • To view the value of deflection in the output file (.ANL File) add the command "PRINT SECTION MAX DISP LIST (member number)" after the analysis command. Please refer the section 5.44 of the Technical Reference Manual of STAAD.Pro.



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    Hello. I've been following this deflection post and have tried to write in commands to print max displacements in the output. I am having difficulties executing the displacements properly; may be writing it wrongly in the code.

    See below the STAAD output - the displacement given does not correspond with the max displ. shown in the outputs. Why are they not the same? And why is the L/DISP value so large? I have also attached the STAAD input. Please help.

    By the way, I've also tried to follow this but have found it confusing. Not sure how to properly use the SECTION command and PRINT SECTION.

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/ram-staad/w/structural_analysis_and_design__wiki/9129/print-section-forces-in-staad-output

    Thanks.

  • The section displacements that you see in the analysis output file are all global displacements and these are reported at 13 equally spaced sections along the length of a member (including the start and end). The L/DISP however is reported for the max local displacement only and not for the global section displacements because when checking the deflection in a member and satisfying the allowable deflection requirements ( L/240, L/360 etc) you should use the local displacements.



  • Sye, as you said the displacements are at 13 section locations. Therefore, the max displacement should be 0.2007 - (0.1755+0.1834)/2 = 0.02125 per your approximation and it is not equal to the printed MAX LOCAL DISPLACEMENT. 

    Also, I did a run on a structure and I compared the Report Table "Section Displacements" Max Disp, it does not match the printed (when using PRINT SECTION MAX DISPLACEMENT) Max Displacement which in turn does not match the approximation you mentioned above. 

    Which one is correct - the result table or the print? The table is helpful in getting the critical beam. Otherwise, one has to go through the result output one by one to get the maximum. The graphical deflection does seem to follow your approximation of the local deflection above. However, it would be difficult to know which member is critical. Using the Global Deflection to filter out maximums may not be that accurate. 

  • To keep things simple here is a sample file ( EXAMP01_rev.STD) with respect to which I have explained the calculations. I have highlighted the max local displacement for member 6 for load case 1 obtained in different ways. If you look at the member section displacements output from the PRINT SECTION DISPL and PRINT SECTION MAX DISP output, both show the max local disp as 0.13606 inches as highlighted below

     

    A rough calculation based on the section displacements reported in the output above also matches the value as shown next

    Local Displacement at mid section = 1.0087 – (0.9048 + 0.8405)/2 = 0.13605 inches

    The Maximum Relative Displacement table reports the same value as well as marked below

     



  • thanks for your help. I am implementing the review by deflection, I have managed to project it in the report, but some elements are reviewed by another parameter, is there a way to indicate that only the deflection parameter is projected???

    PARAMETER 2 
    CODE AISC
    TRACK 0 MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48
    CAN 1 MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48
    DFF 250 ALL
    DJ1 1 1 17 24 47
    DJ2 3 1 17 24 47
    DJ1 9 13 20 27
    DJ2 10 13 20 27
    DJ1 11 MEMB 16 18 25
    DJ2 12 MEMB 16 18 25
    DJ1 4 MEMB 2 21 28 45
    DJ2 2 MEMB 2 21 28 45
    DJ1 3 MEMB 3 11 14 48
    DJ2 4 MEMB 3 11 14 48
    DJ1 13 MEMB 19 22 23
    DJ2 16 MEMB 19 22 23
    DJ1 17 MEMB 26 29 30
    DJ2 20 MEMB 26 29 30
    DJ1 1 MEMB 4 12 15 46
    DJ2 2 MEMB 4 12 15 46
    DJ1 7 MEMB 32 41
    DJ2 5 MEMB 32 41
    DJ1 8 MEMB 10 43
    DJ2 6 MEMB 10 43
    DJ1 7 MEMB 31 42
    DJ2 8 MEMB 31 42
    DJ1 5 MEMB 9 44
    DJ2 6 MEMB 9 44
    DJ1 7 MEMB 5 37
    DJ2 3 MEMB 5 37
    DJ1 8 MEMB 7 40
    DJ2 4 MEMB 7 40
    DJ1 6 MEMB 8 39
    DJ2 2 MEMB 8 39
    DJ1 5 6 38
    DJ2 1 6 38
    CHECK CODE MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48

    ALL UNITS ARE - KG   METE (UNLESS OTHERWISE Noted)

      MEMBER     TABLE       RESULT/   CRITICAL COND/     RATIO/     LOADING/

                              FX            MY             MZ       LOCATION

     ======================================================================

           1  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.671        11

                          104.12 T        -25.92        -163.98        0.70

            2  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.671        11

                          104.12 T         25.92        -163.98        0.70

            3  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.740        13

                          165.50 C        -20.84         329.61        0.49

           4  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.736        13

                          154.54 C         13.28         368.92        0.49

           5  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     AISC- H2-1         0.800        13

                         2030.55 T       -315.69        -382.37        0.00

           6  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     AISC- H2-1         0.854        12

                         2783.89 T        331.38        -394.35        0.00

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  • thanks for your help. I am implementing the review by deflection, I have managed to project it in the report, but some elements are reviewed by another parameter, is there a way to indicate that only the deflection parameter is projected???

    PARAMETER 2 
    CODE AISC
    TRACK 0 MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48
    CAN 1 MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48
    DFF 250 ALL
    DJ1 1 1 17 24 47
    DJ2 3 1 17 24 47
    DJ1 9 13 20 27
    DJ2 10 13 20 27
    DJ1 11 MEMB 16 18 25
    DJ2 12 MEMB 16 18 25
    DJ1 4 MEMB 2 21 28 45
    DJ2 2 MEMB 2 21 28 45
    DJ1 3 MEMB 3 11 14 48
    DJ2 4 MEMB 3 11 14 48
    DJ1 13 MEMB 19 22 23
    DJ2 16 MEMB 19 22 23
    DJ1 17 MEMB 26 29 30
    DJ2 20 MEMB 26 29 30
    DJ1 1 MEMB 4 12 15 46
    DJ2 2 MEMB 4 12 15 46
    DJ1 7 MEMB 32 41
    DJ2 5 MEMB 32 41
    DJ1 8 MEMB 10 43
    DJ2 6 MEMB 10 43
    DJ1 7 MEMB 31 42
    DJ2 8 MEMB 31 42
    DJ1 5 MEMB 9 44
    DJ2 6 MEMB 9 44
    DJ1 7 MEMB 5 37
    DJ2 3 MEMB 5 37
    DJ1 8 MEMB 7 40
    DJ2 4 MEMB 7 40
    DJ1 6 MEMB 8 39
    DJ2 2 MEMB 8 39
    DJ1 5 6 38
    DJ2 1 6 38
    CHECK CODE MEMB 1 TO 32 37 TO 48

    ALL UNITS ARE - KG   METE (UNLESS OTHERWISE Noted)

      MEMBER     TABLE       RESULT/   CRITICAL COND/     RATIO/     LOADING/

                              FX            MY             MZ       LOCATION

     ======================================================================

           1  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.671        11

                          104.12 T        -25.92        -163.98        0.70

            2  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.671        11

                          104.12 T         25.92        -163.98        0.70

            3  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.740        13

                          165.50 C        -20.84         329.61        0.49

           4  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     DEFLECTION         0.736        13

                          154.54 C         13.28         368.92        0.49

           5  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     AISC- H2-1         0.800        13

                         2030.55 T       -315.69        -382.37        0.00

           6  ST   OR102X6.4                (MEXICAN_SECTIONS)

                               PASS     AISC- H2-1         0.854        12

                         2783.89 T        331.38        -394.35        0.00

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