Composite Beam/Deck

Hi

 

I have the following technical question please could you help?

 

 

I wish to model a bridge deck, it is formed of:

 

  • longitudinal plate girders

  • transverse plate girders

  • with a uniform concrete deck which also over hangs the outer longitudinal beams

 

 

I am looking at building the deck as wide taper user members and plate elements, linking them over  beam locations using the master slave function.

 

I undertook a simple sensitive to confirm this approach is ok, however the displacement I get is less than a comparable hand calculation.

 

Can you please advise on why there is this discrepancy?

 

Many thanks

170303 Comp Beam Test 4 - Plates TF.std

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  • When master slave is defined between the slab and the beam nodes, the center of the slab and the center of the beam are connected by rigid links. The fixity between the rigid link and the slab/beam would cause hogging moments to develop at the ends of the slab/beam even if you define the supports as pinned. Due to this, the deflections and span moments in the slab/beam system are going to be lesser than what you would get, if you do a hand calculation assuming a simply supported end condition.



  • Many thanks for the response Sye, that’s very informative.

    This unfortunately causes me problems, how would you recommend that the following problem is best modelled:

    I have composite beams (plate girders) that are continuous over numerous supports. The concrete slabs is connected between beams but also cantilevers past the beam centreline (as shown in the cross-section image above). Therefore I don’t think the composite deck function within Staad will work for the cantilever sections, thus why I selected plates with master slave nodes.

    I do have a first draft model of the above case, should that is help you to understand my problem, although I would like to keep that private.

    I welcome your thoughts.

    Thanks again.

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  • Many thanks for the response Sye, that’s very informative.

    This unfortunately causes me problems, how would you recommend that the following problem is best modelled:

    I have composite beams (plate girders) that are continuous over numerous supports. The concrete slabs is connected between beams but also cantilevers past the beam centreline (as shown in the cross-section image above). Therefore I don’t think the composite deck function within Staad will work for the cantilever sections, thus why I selected plates with master slave nodes.

    I do have a first draft model of the above case, should that is help you to understand my problem, although I would like to keep that private.

    I welcome your thoughts.

    Thanks again.

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