Design Assumptions for Mat Foundation on Piles - RAM Concept

I'm designing a mat supported on piles in Concept. I exported the model and the loads from RSS, but now I'm trying to model the piles. In the past, I've used a point spring to represent the piles. My spring constant was always Ks=P/Delta, or the pile capacity divided by the expected settlement of the pile. However, I would like to use an equivalent column to be able to check for punching shear in my current model. To do so, I'm using the spring equations of Ks=AE/L and Ks=P/Delta. Since I have a pile size (18" dia), a pile capacity (400 kips), and expected settlement (<1/4"), I have a spring constant I can assume  for my model (400kips / 0.25in = 1,600Kips/in). To find an equivalent column, I believe I simply have to solve for L in the other spring equation. Since A is based on my pile diameter, and E on my concrete strength, solving for L should give me the column length representative of what my spring constant is. Running the numbers, I end up with an 18" dia round column with a length equal to 47.8ft. I then set the columns under the mat and run the model as if it was an elevated slab.

I believe I also have to make the columns "Compressible". Design strips will span between columns, similar to elevated slabs. 

Is this the right approach to model piles as columns?

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  • This all sounds correct to me. You want to keep the column diameter accurate for the punching check and for the graphics, so the easiest way to adjust it's stiffness is through the length. They do need to be compressible.
    You can always apply a unit force and check the displacement to confirm your numbers.



  • Thanks Seth!

    I have multiple foundation mats that were brought in from RSS in the same Concept file. I set the "columns" (piles) for all mats, but I'm getting an instability error before the model can run. In the past, when using springs, I would assign a dummy spring value to the X and Y directions to stabilize the structure and allow the calculations to continue. Without springs, how do I accomplish this since the mats are supporting lateral elements (shear walls) with loads in directions that are considered unbraced? Do I simply allow Concept to "auto-stabilize" the structure to allow it to run? I imagine a hand check for the piles will be required to make sure they can carry the horizontal shear that Concept is counteracting by auto-stabilizing the model. For example, if Concept is adding a 100Kips X-direction force to stabilize the structure, then the piles must be capable of resisting this load in that same direction.

    I'm assuming that going to the "Column Below Reactions" tables under each Load Combination is all that is needed to confirm the pile does not exceed its allowable capacity. For axial capacities, this sounds adequate. However, is there a way to verify the horizontal shear force on each pile?
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  • Thanks Seth!

    I have multiple foundation mats that were brought in from RSS in the same Concept file. I set the "columns" (piles) for all mats, but I'm getting an instability error before the model can run. In the past, when using springs, I would assign a dummy spring value to the X and Y directions to stabilize the structure and allow the calculations to continue. Without springs, how do I accomplish this since the mats are supporting lateral elements (shear walls) with loads in directions that are considered unbraced? Do I simply allow Concept to "auto-stabilize" the structure to allow it to run? I imagine a hand check for the piles will be required to make sure they can carry the horizontal shear that Concept is counteracting by auto-stabilizing the model. For example, if Concept is adding a 100Kips X-direction force to stabilize the structure, then the piles must be capable of resisting this load in that same direction.

    I'm assuming that going to the "Column Below Reactions" tables under each Load Combination is all that is needed to confirm the pile does not exceed its allowable capacity. For axial capacities, this sounds adequate. However, is there a way to verify the horizontal shear force on each pile?
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