STAAD SPACESTART JOB INFORMATIONENGINEER DATE 04-Apr-18END JOB INFORMATIONINPUT WIDTH 79UNIT FEET KIPJOINT COORDINATES1 0 0 0; 2 1.67 0 0; 3 19.66 0 0; 4 21.33 0 0; 5 1.67 -6.5 0; 6 19.66 -6.5 0;7 0.29 0 0; 8 5.33 0 0; 9 10.67 0 0; 10 16 0 0; 11 21.04 0 0; 12 0.29 0 3.67;13 0.29 0 -3.67; 14 5.33 0 3.67; 15 5.33 0 -3.67; 16 10.67 0 3.67;17 10.67 0 -3.67; 18 16 0 3.67; 19 16 0 -3.67; 20 21.04 0 3.67;21 21.04 0 -3.67;MEMBER INCIDENCES1 1 7; 2 2 5; 3 3 6; 4 7 12; 5 8 14; 6 9 16; 7 10 18; 8 11 20; 9 7 13; 10 8 15;11 9 17; 12 10 19; 13 11 21; 14 2 8; 15 3 11; 16 7 2; 17 8 9; 18 9 10; 19 10 3;20 11 4; 21 12 14; 22 14 16; 23 16 18; 24 18 20; 25 13 15; 26 15 17; 27 17 19;28 19 21;DEFINE MATERIAL STARTISOTROPIC STEELE 4.176e+006POISSON 0.3DENSITY 0.489024ALPHA 6e-006DAMP 0.03TYPE STEELSTRENGTH FY 5184 FU 8352 RY 1.5 RT 1.2END DEFINE MATERIALMEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN1 14 TO 20 TABLE ST W10X332 3 TABLE ST W8X35MEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN4 TO 13 PRIS YD 0.6675 ZD 0.5833 YB 0.6254 ZB 0.0254MEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN21 TO 28 TABLE ST HSST4X2X0.375CONSTANTSMATERIAL STEEL ALLSUPPORTS5 6 FIXEDMEMBER RELEASE4 TO 13 20 START MY21 TO 28 START MY MZ21 TO 28 END MY MZ1 END MYLOAD 1 LOADTYPE Dead TITLE DLSELFWEIGHT Y -1 MEMBER LOAD*Load of Channel21 TO 28 UNI GY -0.02*10psf Load of deck plus misc on trib 5.345 TO 7 10 TO 12 UNI GY -0.0534*10psf Load of deck plus misc on trib 2.74 8 9 13 UNI GY -0.027PERFORM ANALYSISFINISH
For the cantilever W10X33 sections (joint instabilities at nodes 1 and 4), is there a need to release those short cantilevers such that they won't carry moment about their local Y? Would those not be continuous from the back span?
Similarly, you have released the MY for the WT (here prismatic T's) members, but will they be connected in such a way as to fix bending about Z but not Y? Are those member end releases necessary? That may resolve the joint instabilities at nodes 16 and 17 as well.
Jason Coleman, PE
Bentley Systems Senior Manager Technical Content
Hello Jason.
Thanks for the reply. I have corrected the mistake of My for small cantilevers. They should not be included. But for WT sections I included My as it is a cantilever. But still, I am getting instabilities in 2 nodes 20 and 21. Should I release Mz (would this not be wrong as Mz is major axis bending)?
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STAAD SPACESTART JOB INFORMATIONENGINEER DATE 04-Apr-18END JOB INFORMATIONINPUT WIDTH 79UNIT FEET KIPJOINT COORDINATES1 0 0 0; 2 1.67 0 0; 3 19.66 0 0; 4 21.33 0 0; 5 1.67 -6.5 0; 6 19.66 -6.5 0;7 0.29 0 0; 8 5.33 0 0; 9 10.67 0 0; 10 16 0 0; 11 21.04 0 0; 12 0.29 0 3.67;13 0.29 0 -3.67; 14 5.33 0 3.67; 15 5.33 0 -3.67; 16 10.67 0 3.67;17 10.67 0 -3.67; 18 16 0 3.67; 19 16 0 -3.67; 20 21.04 0 3.67;21 21.04 0 -3.67;MEMBER INCIDENCES1 1 7; 2 2 5; 3 3 6; 4 7 12; 5 8 14; 6 9 16; 7 10 18; 8 11 20; 9 7 13; 10 8 15;11 9 17; 12 10 19; 13 11 21; 14 2 8; 15 3 11; 16 7 2; 17 8 9; 18 9 10; 19 10 3;20 11 4; 21 12 14; 22 14 16; 23 16 18; 24 18 20; 25 13 15; 26 15 17; 27 17 19;28 19 21;DEFINE MATERIAL STARTISOTROPIC STEELE 4.176e+006POISSON 0.3DENSITY 0.489024ALPHA 6e-006DAMP 0.03TYPE STEELSTRENGTH FY 5184 FU 8352 RY 1.5 RT 1.2END DEFINE MATERIALMEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN1 14 TO 20 TABLE ST W10X332 3 TABLE ST W8X35MEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN4 TO 13 PRIS YD 0.6675 ZD 0.5833 YB 0.6254 ZB 0.0254MEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN21 TO 28 TABLE ST HSST4X2X0.375CONSTANTSBETA 90 MEMB 2 3MATERIAL STEEL ALLSUPPORTS5 6 FIXEDMEMBER RELEASE4 TO 13 START MY21 TO 28 START MY MZ21 TO 28 END MY MZLOAD 1 LOADTYPE Dead TITLE DLSELFWEIGHT Y -1 MEMBER LOAD*Load of Channel21 TO 28 UNI GY -0.02*10psf Load of deck plus misc on trib 5.345 TO 7 10 TO 12 UNI GY -0.0534*10psf Load of deck plus misc on trib 2.74 8 9 13 UNI GY -0.027PERFORM ANALYSISFINISH
Instability warnings do not cause any harm in your model as static check are ok and displacements are reasonable. However, to avoid these warnings, you can change the moment releases with partial moment releases (these release 99.5% of the moment at a connection - 0.5% is retained to help with the instability). This is a common practice and is a reasonable assumption as no pinned connection truly releases all the moment in reality. So input lines should be changed from 4 TO 13 START MY to 4 TO 13 START MPY 0.995.