I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

FirstName LastName — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 09:46:17 GMT

Kindly reply for the queries mentioned in trailing mail as we have project submission deadline.

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

FirstName LastName — Fri, 13 Aug 2021 06:51:26 GMT

Hi,

We rechecked our calculations, there is a clause in IS 800:2007 given below.

As per the Cl 8.2.1.1 a, We got bending moment capacity about major axis considering flanges alone as 439.1 kNm. On checking the same model with Update 2, the moment capacity is 438.7 kNm but in update 6 the moment capacity is 953.6 kNm. Please clarify.

Further, the shear capacity along minor axis as per manual calculation is 507 kN but as per Update 6 & Update 2, it is 258.5 kN.

Please Clarify Bending capacity and Minor axis shear capacity.

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

Shreyanka Bhattacharjee — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 10:56:27 GMT

I apologies, I have done one mistake in the calculation, please allow me some time to check

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

FirstName LastName — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 08:34:53 GMT

In the value of Design Lambda Lt= Sqrt(1.2 Zez*fy/Mcr) = 0.611 in my calculation.

But while using Zey in above formula, instead of Zez we are able to get the value of 0.1017 which is less than 0.4, which eliminates LTb clause check.

Is using Zey in the formula while calculating major axis moment capacity is correct?

In the example attached in STAAD Help,

They are using Zez only.

Please refer the below example. There also they are referring Zez while calculating major axis moment capacity.

communities.bentley.com/.../80730

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

Royal Civil Design Center — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 05:27:49 GMT

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

Shreyanka Bhattacharjee — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 05:01:54 GMT

Please calculate Mcr with this equation

Here is the calculation for major axis bending capacity (Member 15)

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

Royal Civil Design Center — Mon, 09 Aug 2021 09:18:36 GMT

Please Upload ANL File

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

FirstName LastName — Mon, 09 Aug 2021 05:22:53 GMT

Please find the Manual Calculation for the beam considered for design. I had used IS 800: 2007

formula for Mcr calculation. Eventhough with formula mentioned in STAAD Example, there is a meagre variation in Mcr value.

Please find the STAAD Editor attached below. Beam ID Considered for design is 9

I run the file in below mentioned version.

STAAD.Pro CONNECT Edition *
* Version 22.06.00.138

**********

STAAD SPACE
START JOB INFORMATION
ENGINEER DATE 30-Jul-21
END JOB INFORMATION
INPUT WIDTH 79
UNIT METER KN
JOINT COORDINATES
5 0 10 0; 6 25 10 0; 7 0 24 0; 8 25 24 0; 9 50 10 0; 10 50 24 0; 11 75 10 0;
12 75 24 0; 13 100 10 0; 14 100 24 0;
MEMBER INCIDENCES
7 5 7; 8 6 8; 9 7 8; 10 9 10; 11 8 10; 12 11 12; 13 10 12; 14 13 14; 15 12 14;
DEFINE MATERIAL START
ISOTROPIC STEEL
E 2.1e+08
POISSON 0.3
DENSITY 76.8195
ALPHA 1.2e-05
DAMP 0.03
G 7.88462e+07
TYPE STEEL
STRENGTH RY 1.5 RT 1.2
END DEFINE MATERIAL
MEMBER PROPERTY
9 11 13 15 TAPERED 1.016 0.01 1.016 0.175 0.008
7 8 10 12 14 TAPERED 0.95 0.012 0.95 0.5 0.025
CONSTANTS
BETA 90 MEMB 7 8 10 12 14
MATERIAL STEEL ALL
SUPPORTS
5 6 9 11 13 FIXED BUT MZ
LOAD 1 LOADTYPE None TITLE DL
SELFWEIGHT Y -1
MEMBER LOAD
9 11 13 15 UNI GY -1.6
LOAD 2 LOADTYPE None TITLE COLL
MEMBER LOAD
9 11 13 15 UNI GY -5.6
9 11 13 15 UNI GY -8
LOAD 3 LOADTYPE None TITLE LIVE
MEMBER LOAD
9 11 13 15 UNI GY -6
LOAD COMB 4 COMBINATION LOAD CASE 4
1 1.5 2 1.5 3 1.5
PERFORM ANALYSIS PRINT ALL
LOAD LIST 4
PARAMETER 1
CODE IS800 LSD
BEAM 1 ALL
FYLD 345000 ALL
FU 450000 ALL
LAT 0 MEMB 9 11 13 15
LX 1.5 MEMB 9 11 13 15
LY 1.5 MEMB 9 11 13 15
MAIN 180 ALL
STP 2 ALL
TRACK 2 ALL
CHECK CODE ALL
FINISH

RE: I am designing a Tapred section as per IS 800:2007 LSD, By considering LTB. When I do it manually, the Moment capacity of beam is 772.8 kNm as per Cl 8.2.2

Abhisek M — Fri, 06 Aug 2021 16:23:56 GMT

We have kept some verification example in the help file. You may refer those for clarification.

file:///C:/Program%20Files/Bentley/Engineering/STAAD.Pro%20CONNECT%20Edition/Help/GUID-E6604057-DD21-4779-8428-A08817A6ECA2.html

If you still have doubts, please upload the STAAD model along with your hand calculation for investigation at our end.