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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Minimum Radius - PT Systems</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/ram-staad/f/ram-staad-forum/245722/minimum-radius---pt-systems</link><description>Hi There, 
 
 I have a question about RAM Concepts usage of minimum radius parameter when it comes to post tension cable curvatures (dealing mostly with flat ducts containing 12.7mm/15.8mm strand tendons here in Aus). We have noticed that for same radius</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Minimum Radius - PT Systems</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/767331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 17:11:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:44aa5750-bb02-481d-9bbb-3b4a0a2b32c2</guid><dc:creator>Seth Guthrie</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#39;t be totally sure how RAPT calculates this, but your last image looks like a parabola with a flattened top which differs from our assumption. Here are the calculations for your 9 m example.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;td width="71"&gt;Variable&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td width="86"&gt;Value&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td width="74"&gt;Units&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td width="203"&gt;Comment&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;L&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;4500&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;mm, in&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;from A to B (half-span)&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;x&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;0&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;mm, in&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;i&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;0.2&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;inflection point ratio&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;900&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;0.000218272&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;parabola coefficient (x before IP)&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;5.45679E-05&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;0&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;parabola coefficient (x after IP)&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;942&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;58&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;884&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;mm, in&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;y&amp;#39;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;0&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;parabola slope&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;-0.00043654&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;parabola radius of curvature&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And here&amp;#39;s the output from the CalcLog confirming the same value:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5932/pastedimage1685034682817v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Minimum Radius - PT Systems</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/767196?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 03:10:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:100243c0-3a2c-4541-8fdb-fe8ae6dd9dd7</guid><dc:creator>Durga Malla</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Seth for the prompt response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Assuming 2500mm radius with 10% inflection point ratio, now the results should match, as in no &amp;quot;radius error&amp;quot; from RAM Concept should occur right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5932/pastedimage1684984098492v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5932/pastedimage1684984350649v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just want to understand if both software are using 2500mm minimum radius why one is giving error and the other is not?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Thanks Mate&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Minimum Radius - PT Systems</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/767122?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 15:31:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:fbf6fbdc-75ce-46ca-84fd-697da275cfd3</guid><dc:creator>Seth Guthrie</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The placement of the inflection point&amp;nbsp;(inflection point ratio in Concept) is one thing to check.&amp;nbsp;Here are two clips from the&amp;nbsp;manual about that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5932/pastedimage1684942409393v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5932/pastedimage1684942442785v3.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your other suggestions seem helpful. We are looking into some possible tendon detailing improvements in Ram Concept, or through the iTwin, and I&amp;#39;ll pass along this to the PM.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>