RAM concept fa/fcr plot vs Ieff/Ig plot

Hello,

I'm a new starter on RAM concept and have some questions regarding the fa/fcr plan and Ieff/Ig span plot under the Load Histroy Defelctions tab.

When I was comparing these two results, in the initial load step (self-weight considered only), the fa/fcr plot showed most places with a ratio smaller than 1, which means the section is untracked. But in the Ieff/Ig plot, most locations have a ratio smaller than 1, which means the section is cracked. Could you tell me why there is an inconsistency?

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  • Fa/Fcr is the ratio of the calculated axial stress due to the applied loading and induced creep and shrinkage strains divided by the modulus of rupture. As you have noted, a section is considered cracked when the ratio is greater than or equal to 1.

    Ieff/Ig is a measure for the element stiffness reduction is determined using the curvature calculations performed on each cross section rather than cracked or uncracked transformed moment of inertia calculations. It is not a cracked moment of inertia to gross moment ratio as the plan label implies.

    The plotted values of Ieff/Ig are roughly equal to the ratio of the mean curvature (average curvature interpolated between the uncracked transformed curvature and the cracked curvature using the tension stiffening model) and the gross curvature caused by externally applied loads and post-tensioning using gross section properties. Ieff/Ig will be greater than 1 when the mean transformed curvature exceeds the gross curvature. That could occur when:

    • Section is uncracked and contains reinforcement
    • Section is cracked, perhaps just over cracking stress, but heavily reinforced
    • Section is lightly loaded and with shrinkage curvature is a greater than and opposite the curvature due to the applied loads.

    You may also find the tabulated parameters outlined on the web page below useful for studying and understanding the behavior.

    (+) RAM Concept Load History Deflection Analysis Results Table - RAM | STAAD | ADINA Wiki - RAM | STAAD | ADINA - Bentley Communities



  • Thank you Karl. Appreciate your response.

    Another issue I found in the model is there was very high axial force in the element, which I did not expect to occur. In the model I previously attached I have reduced the axial force stiffness factors for all the elements so the high axial forces are eliminated.

    I am not sure if this is the correct way and there is no obvious increase in the bending moment plot after reducing the axial stiffnesses. I had thought if the axial stiffness factors are reduced then the high axial force originally in the elements would transfer to the bending moment. 

    Could you explain why this would occur and what's the best approach to consider for the high axial force?

    Thank you.

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  • Thank you Karl. Appreciate your response.

    Another issue I found in the model is there was very high axial force in the element, which I did not expect to occur. In the model I previously attached I have reduced the axial force stiffness factors for all the elements so the high axial forces are eliminated.

    I am not sure if this is the correct way and there is no obvious increase in the bending moment plot after reducing the axial stiffnesses. I had thought if the axial stiffness factors are reduced then the high axial force originally in the elements would transfer to the bending moment. 

    Could you explain why this would occur and what's the best approach to consider for the high axial force?

    Thank you.

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