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STAAD (X)

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We haven't heard much on the STAAD(X) front since the last version was released.  Back in December 2008? 

 How is it coming along?  When is the next release?  How will the capabilities compare to STAAD Pro? 

 Inquiring minds want to know.

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    Hello everyone,

    I appreciate the comments and your interest in STAAD(X). Counter to perception, these comments are considered seriously at Bentley and have been the subject of much debate.

    As we make a generational shift in product [lines], the temptation is to wait until everything is 100% complete and then launch. In this case we chose to do a technology preview to try solicit input and advice, not just on what’s missing relative to the current STAAD(X) (hopefully we know these things), but to engage our users and possible ones to and get your feedback on everything from functionality, ease of use, reporting, UI, interoperability, etc. Hopefully you can look at these versions (that, granted, they should be coined technology previews as opposed to betas) and give us your feedback and input.

    We are working towards a Fall major update release for STAAD(X) and we welcome all comments towards the goal of producing something truly exceptional.

    Feel free to contact me privately for any questions you might have about STAAD(X). Thank you!

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    What exactly is the intent with STAAD(X)?

    Is this "...a generational shift in product " as F_Diego mentioned or ".... a viable alternative for STAAD.Pro users.", as Kris noted in other post? Are both programs suppose to co-exist and receive equal support from Bently or only staad (x) has a future? And what about licences (Ram_staad quesiont is remains un-answered).

    I read other posts on the web about staax(x) - after few incarnations it appears far from ready for everyday use. But then, how much time we have to wait to bring staad(x) to the level of staad pro?...and subsequently to the level of competitors?

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    Will Staad incorporate the modules that are currently available in Elements (IE - Masonry wall design, foundation design, etc.)?
  • Offline in reply to Andreas Zieritz

    Hello Andreas, thank you for your continued interest in STAAD(X). You're absolutely right, the time we had originally estimated for the release is long gone. Please try to understand we're innovating here. It is a brand new product and that in itself brings many unknowns to the table. Please keep an eye on this webpage: STAAD(X). This is where the updates on the development and release of the software will be posted.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding. In early April we will be conducting a User Council to test drive STAAD(X) for the first time. If you're a Bentley user and you're interested in participating, please let me know privately by e-mail.

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    Come on Rama!  That's not factual or proper. The STAAD(X) story is nothing like the one of the video game you mention.

     

    In general, in the software industry all BETA and FINAL dates released are just estimations. These are based on an established plan and previous experiences programming something similar. Developing software always means to do something you probably never did before and it's impossible to know what might happen on the way. This is the case, we’re conceiving a brand new software program.

     

    STAAD(X) is a complex software. We think that quality has a much higher importance than keeping a release date. We appreciate to see people like you waiting for it and we are sorry when delays occur. Nevertheless, we kindly ask you to bear with us a little more, you will be pleasantly surprised.

     

    If you're a Bentley user and are interested in knowing more about STAAD(X), please keep an eye on this webpage: STAAD(X).

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    Come on Rama!  That's not factual or proper. The STAAD(X) story is nothing like the one of the video game you mention.

     

    In general, in the software industry all BETA and FINAL dates released are just estimations. These are based on an established plan and previous experiences programming something similar. Developing software always means to do something you probably never did before and it's impossible to know what might happen on the way. This is the case, we’re conceiving a brand new software program.

     

    STAAD(X) is a complex software. We think that quality has a much higher importance than keeping a release date. We appreciate to see people like you waiting for it and we are sorry when delays occur. Nevertheless, we kindly ask you to bear with us a little more, you will be pleasantly surprised.

     

    If you're a Bentley user and are interested in knowing more about STAAD(X), please keep an eye on this webpage: STAAD(X).

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  • Offline in reply to F_Diego
    Man, that interface looks.... sexy!

    Eagerly awaiting for the release.
  • Offline in reply to F_Diego
    I believe Rama is simply expressing his frustration with the history of STAAD(X). After all, it was first announce over six years ago. It took you almost 8 months to respond to Rama's comment, yet you don't seem to understand why we users would feel a certain degree of frustration. And now, I see from the screenshot on the webpage you mentioned, that STAAD(X) looks nothing like STAAD(X) V8i (SS2) that I have on my machine. As a matter of fact, when I went to the software downloads on the Bentley website (Selectservices), I couldn't even find STAAD(X). So apparently you are totally retooling STAAD(X) which was never "officially" released.

    Go back and read Carlos' glowing report about the new release of STAAD(X) on 5 Sept 2012 and explain to us why we shouldn't be confused when we hear you are apparently developing a "new" STAAD(X). Yes, I believe that STAAD(X) will eventually come to fruition one day, so calling it "vaporware" is a knee-jerk reaction to all the unfulfilled promises we've heard for the last six years, so I would hope you would allow us to vent a bit.
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    I am truly sorry you feel that way Tank. You can vent as much as you want, we have never been criticized for not listening to our users, on the contrary. I am sorry it took me 8 months to respond to Rama, I have updated my notifications so I get them on time every time someone posts something here. However this is an online public forum open to anyone, users like you and Rama, could contact us directly via e-mail when a response is urgent. That is part of the benefits of being a Bentley user and your SELECT agreement.

    Having said that, yes, STAAD(X) looks nothing like any of our general purpose analysis and design products (by the way, the current STAAD.Pro is SELECTseries 5, version 20.07.10.66). Well... I should not say that, it has a little bit of all of them, we kept the strengths of all of them as much as we could, but gave them a revamp. You're right to say that STAAD(X) has never been officially released. However it will be this year.

    I do understand where your confusion is coming from, so let me clarify. We are not developing a new STAAD(X). It is the same Carlos is referring to in his 2012 post. But plans change and they change in the interest of our users and our users only and that is why the front end of that SX you mention from that post, is now improved. If you would like to discuss this further, feel free to e-mail me directly.

    On behalf of Bentley and myself, I apologize for any confusion this may have caused you. I am here to help.

  • Offline in reply to F_Diego
    Even though I started this thread 5 years ago I'm still very excited for the release of STAAD (X). I'm glad Francisco and his team are taking the time to get it right. It's definately hard waiting, but I'd rather a fully functional product than a half baked attempt. The timeline may have been fuzzy over the last 5 years, but there's an actual release timeframe now, so that's a huge step forward. I can't think of a previous example (in the American market) where a major engineering software company has re-vamped a structural analysis package to this degree (with the exception of the advent of GUI's), so it's an unprecedented situation.

    I think there's ample evidence that the rest of the STAAD community is excited as well. There aren't any other threads on Bentley Communties that have lasted as long and I haven't seen many with this number of replies.

    Here's to hoping that Bentley knocks it out of the park! I and my co-workers are going to be using this product for the next several decades, so let's hope it's a leap toward the future.
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