Problems showing existing storm drain pipes on the sections. - Geopak SS3

May I ask if you tried the SUE tools.  I might suggest trying these as well.

No I have not tried the SUE tools.

I am new to using SS3. I would like to avoid the additional learning curve with the additional software.

Do you happen to know if there is an additional charge for activating the license?

No, He is using OpenRoads to do all of it.

The following is the message I receive when I attempt to activate the product.

This Product Add-in enhances the functionality of GEOPAK. Using Subsurface Utility Engineering will log additional usage of Subsurface Utility Engineering and may result in incremental cost. Continue loading?

Honestly, I have attempted (in my opinion) the most basic functions in GEOPAK SS3 and I get mixed results. Sometimes it works great sometimes it fails and costs me much time.

I have a feeling that the Subsurface Utility software will cost me in time and money.

I have created a file with simple lines and simple feature definitions to the lines. When I plot the cross sections, I get very bad results. The features that I created are basically the same as an edge of proposed road. Simply mark an “X” at the elevation of the feature on the section. I am not certain how I could do something wrong with such basic linework.

I am very frustrated with the product at the moment.

I think that I will need to plot utilities the old way for now until the product improves.

Nico,

I hope that your suggestion still works because I am having no luck plotting utilities using features.

Thanks,

Phil

I was informed that there is a charge for SUE tools so I guess that option is out.

Philip:  Beebe and others can help you with the original workflow you started, although it seems that you have arrived at what I think is the expected result.  The utility feature lines will show as a point in the cross-sections which can then be labeled with a text notation.  If you want more than simply an X at the location on the cross-sections then you can define a cell in the element template, which can produce (for example) a circle. But, you probably already figured this out.

The SUE tools will produce 3D models of the utility lines and thus the cross-sections will show a LOT more detail since you will se a slice of the actual solids.  The learning curve is not steep.  You could be producing models of utility lines in an hour or less and I am happy to help you with this if you are interested.  If you need customized utility node structures then there is some additional setup required, but sounds like your main interest is the buried linear utilities.

However, there is an additional license fee for SUE.  I'm happy to discuss these costs along with your account manager if you wish.  I would suggest that a conversation about the cost versus efficiency gains in the workflow you are attempting would be worthwhile.  Keep in mind that you do not need to maintain a 1:1 ratio of SUE licnese compared to the number of geopak licenses you own.  A small percentage of SUE license shared among your staff staff of many geopak users is adequate in many organizations.

Philip:  Beebe and others can help you with the original workflow you started, although it seems that you have arrived at what I think is the expected result.  The utility feature lines will show as a point in the cross-sections which can then be labeled with a text notation.  If you want more than simply an X at the location on the cross-sections then you can define a cell in the element template, which can produce (for example) a circle. But, you probably already figured this out.

The SUE tools will produce 3D models of the utility lines and thus the cross-sections will show a LOT more detail since you will se a slice of the actual solids.  The learning curve is not steep.  You could be producing models of utility lines in an hour or less and I am happy to help you with this if you are interested.  If you need customized utility node structures then there is some additional setup required, but sounds like your main interest is the buried linear utilities.

However, there is an additional license fee for SUE.  I'm happy to discuss these costs along with your account manager if you wish.  I would suggest that a conversation about the cost versus efficiency gains in the workflow you are attempting would be worthwhile.  Keep in mind that you do not need to maintain a 1:1 ratio of SUE licnese compared to the number of geopak licenses you own.  A small percentage of SUE license shared among your staff staff of many geopak users is adequate in many organizations.