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Problems showing existing storm drain pipes on the sections. - Geopak SS3

Philip Mashuda
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I am attempting to show existing storm drain pipes on the sections.

 I created features and element templates for the pipes. The element template uses a cell for the pipe.

Everything appears correct in the cross section view in the modeler. The pipes are viewed properly.

 When I create cross sections I get bad results.

Proposed roadway model does not appear, geopak cells are not grouped properly, pipes do not show as in modeler.

The proposed cross section DGN (mHC-MD197_MD197.dgn) is a mess.

 I started the cross sections using a 2d seed model. I referenced the 2d corridor model with no nesting then the 3d corridor model with nesting depth=99.

 The cross section file is mHC-MD197_MD197.dgn

The main corridor DGN is MD197.dgn

 I uploaded/posted the files to the Road and Site Design as

Geopak_Support_2014_08_27.zip

 Thank you for your assistance.

 

Philip Mashuda

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    Beebe,
     
    I tried your workaround.
    Very odd results.
    I started in a 3d file with the desired GO then created a 2d model with-in the file.
    I imported the horizontal geometry from the gpk file to the 2d model.
    At this point I have a 2d and a 3d model.
    I referenced the dtm DGN to the 2d model. (the DTM DGN has the proper GO)
    I create a corridor in the 2d model from the imported horizontal alignment and profile.
     
    I now have another 3d model with attachments and with the proper GO.
    The original 3d model is empty.
     
    To create the cross section DGN, I start in a 3D file.
    Reference the corridor 2d model with nesting=2
    Create the cross sections results in a “Model”
     
    The original 3D model in the corridor file is never used.
     
    Is the above workflow what I need to follow with this client?
    Can I fix the existing corridor files or must I start the project over? (The GO in the 3D corridor model is at 0 not at the client standard )
     
     
    Thanks,
     
    Phil
     
     
     
    From: Beebe Ray [mailto:bounce-Beebe_Ray@communities.bentley.com]
    Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:17 AM
    To: RoadSiteDesign@communities.bentley.com
    Subject: RE: [Road and Site Design Forum] Problems showing existing storm drain pipes on the sections. - Geopak SS3
     
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    The bad results in cross section is occurring due to the design file having a shift in the global origin.  A defect has been filed on this that will be either fixed in the upcoming SS3 MR or SS4.

    The workaround is to create a dgn file from your 3D seed.  The seed has the shift in GO for X,Y,Z.  Then create a 2D design model in the dgn for your geometry.  Then when you attach a 3d file or create 3d geometry OpenRoads will create the 3d model with the global origin shifted in the x,y,z to match your design file shift.

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    Beebe,
     
    I tried your workaround.
    Very odd results.
    I started in a 3d file with the desired GO then created a 2d model with-in the file.
    I imported the horizontal geometry from the gpk file to the 2d model.
    At this point I have a 2d and a 3d model.
    I referenced the dtm DGN to the 2d model. (the DTM DGN has the proper GO)
    I create a corridor in the 2d model from the imported horizontal alignment and profile.
     
    I now have another 3d model with attachments and with the proper GO.
    The original 3d model is empty.
     
    To create the cross section DGN, I start in a 3D file.
    Reference the corridor 2d model with nesting=2
    Create the cross sections results in a “Model”
     
    The original 3D model in the corridor file is never used.
     
    Is the above workflow what I need to follow with this client?
    Can I fix the existing corridor files or must I start the project over? (The GO in the 3D corridor model is at 0 not at the client standard )
     
     
    Thanks,
     
    Phil
     
     
     
    From: Beebe Ray [mailto:bounce-Beebe_Ray@communities.bentley.com]
    Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:17 AM
    To: RoadSiteDesign@communities.bentley.com
    Subject: RE: [Road and Site Design Forum] Problems showing existing storm drain pipes on the sections. - Geopak SS3
     
    View and reply online
    Replying to this email posts your reply in the thread.
     

    The bad results in cross section is occurring due to the design file having a shift in the global origin.  A defect has been filed on this that will be either fixed in the upcoming SS3 MR or SS4.

    The workaround is to create a dgn file from your 3D seed.  The seed has the shift in GO for X,Y,Z.  Then create a 2D design model in the dgn for your geometry.  Then when you attach a 3d file or create 3d geometry OpenRoads will create the 3d model with the global origin shifted in the x,y,z to match your design file shift.

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