Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Chuck Lawson — Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:38:58 GMT

Errick,

Thank you for posting your question. To get everything to show up in the cross section view there are a couple of extra steps. I made a training video for OpenRoads Designer CONNECT Edition here:

https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki/35957/video-setting-up-3d-linestyles-for-display-in-plan-3d-cross-section

Now I know you are asking about SS4. The process is going to be essentially the same. You will have to make a cell to see this show up in the plotted cross sections and place that cell when doing the annotation. When we slice a custom 3D linestyle, there is not currently a way to make this show up in the plotted sections. So by making a cell the same dimensions as the linestyle, we can super impose that cell at the same position as the 3D linear feature.

HTH,

Chuck

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Errick Gray — Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:03:04 GMT

I am using InRoads SS4 08.11.09.878 and want to know if this issue has been resolved. I am having a similar issue: 3D line strings show up in the dynamic view but not in static cross sections. What is allowable at this point?

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Rick Stegman — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:23:34 GMT

Hello Chuck,

I did try assigning a Surface Feature Definition to the mesh. That is after I converted the solid to a mesh. It would not allow me to apply a Surface Feature Definition to a solid or surface, or a Linear Feature Definition to them either. I also tried to apply a material to the solid. No go.

Adam, I am using Openroads tools to cut the sections, though while it seems the dialog to cut the sections is different, it still results in the old Geopak cross section cell process.

The only way I been able to show linear items in cross sections is to apply a Linear Feature Definition to a line, then set a point as cell to the xsection portion of the Feature.

If anyone wants to duplicate the problem, I just took a Horizontal Geometry, applied a surface vertical to it with a -3.5 offset. Made that vertical the active profile which then created the 3d line. I then used the Microstation create solid by extrusion along to add a pipe solid to the 3d line. Shows in cross section view model just fine......does not show on create cross section.

Thanks
Rick

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Chuck Lawson — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:31:20 GMT

Rick, can you try something for me? Try assigning a Surface Feature Definition to your 3D mesh you want to see in your cross sections. Does this fix the issue? You can simply use the assign Feature command. I am not positive, but I think this is a requirement right now.

Thanks
Chuck

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Adam Wieczorek — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:06:14 GMT

It must be Geopak specific then. However I was sure that cross-section engine would be the same for all civil products with OpenRoads technology. Do you use Geopak tools to cut cross-sections or new OpenRoads tools?

You are right that this is advertised as one of greatest benfits of the new technology and it was one of reasons that make me migrate to Openroads.

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Rick Stegman — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:21:29 GMT

To verify, I am using Geopak, not Inroads.

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Adam Wieczorek — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:14:00 GMT

That is strange. I cut cross section set along corridor cutting bridge deck and abuntment and get that on my cross-sections. I even logged for a defect that levels of that elemnts are changed on cross-sections when cuting through structures in referenced files.

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Rick Stegman — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:57:05 GMT

Hello Adam,

I don't know specifics on the defect as it relates to the filing, access to Bentley's bug tracker would be useful. I can tell you that I could not get the cross section creator (not the cross section viewer) to extract any non-civil solids, surfaces or meshes. It is quite disappointing being I created solid pipes of all my underground existing utilities, solid pipes and shapes of all Geopak Drainage produced inlets and links, and all ROW lines as extruded surfaces. I was planning on modeling bridges along the corridor...glad I haven't. This was one the highlighted features of OpenRoads Technology....and works quite well in the cross section model view...but back to ancillary features.

Thanks
Rick

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Adam Wieczorek — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:49:49 GMT

Is it Geopak specific defect? I could cut cross-sections of non-civil meshes with InRoads powered with OpenRoads. I had a corridor created with OpenRoads tools and a few corridors created with previous releases (Roadway Designer) along with bridges and I cus CS sets with all that items on it. However there was an issue that original cad levels were not mainteined on cross-sections.

Can you please give us some more info on that defect? This sounds very disapointing.

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Rick Stegman — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:23:57 GMT

Just is case anyone else was expecting to be able to cut sections of any modeled item, this does not work. It is filed as defect number is D14630.

Thanks
Rick

RE: Microstation Solids and Meshes in Openroad Cross Sections

Ricardo Villegas — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:57:55 GMT

I will call you 11:00 AM in order to work in this issue, thanks