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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Civil Geometry crash sequence</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/103531/civil-geometry-crash-sequence</link><description>MicroStation 08.11.09.608 
 GEOPAK 08.11.09.722 
 This sequence crashes MicroStation every time in any file on any computer I&amp;#39;ve tried. 
 Civil Tools / Horizontal Geometry / Arc Between Points Method: Start\End|Pass-through Snap to end of first element</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Civil Geometry crash sequence</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/309887?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:23:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:58d29864-b054-4e19-9486-c3be253fe7a8</guid><dc:creator>Vern Danforth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps5.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Neil,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you suspected:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because of the way Civil Geometry is &amp;quot;ruled&amp;quot; at creation only the landing point will remain tangent. &amp;nbsp;The arc begin point and tangent bearing is ruled when it is locked in from the paste routine. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another solution and not: The Arc between Elements tools&amp;nbsp; is sucessful if the&amp;nbsp;angle between elements is acute,&amp;nbsp;less than 90 degrees. If it is&amp;nbsp;more it defaults to a clockwise angle. When sucessful&amp;nbsp;the ARC&amp;nbsp;will allow both tangent bearings to vary .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/940x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps5.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Civil Geometry crash sequence</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/309883?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:08:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8a859e61-5178-4079-bf94-26c265b23f3e</guid><dc:creator>neilw</dc:creator><description>Does the workaround result in an arc that stays tangent when the tangents move?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Civil Geometry crash sequence</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/309839?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:51:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:ddefff67-09e1-4018-8aff-91831f53b82a</guid><dc:creator>Ricardo Villegas</dc:creator><description>I replicated the issue, I am working on it, please I recommended for now to use Arc to Element tool (copy the bearing from the first element), then select the second element(Tangent), set offset zero, check on End Tangent method, paste the bearing from first element, press Enter, then snap of the begin of arc, then select the other element to trim, basically is like Vern Danforth show in his comment.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Civil Geometry crash sequence</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/309768?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:03:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:fffb6da9-ab60-415e-ad96-6ca51498b978</guid><dc:creator>Vern Danforth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Mike ,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was able to re-create the problem you have reported,&amp;nbsp;yes.&amp;nbsp; ... try this as a work around!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Use the select tool to highlight the tangent bearing angle of the first element you want to begin the arc.Copy the angle using, CNTL C &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/600x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps1.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Use&amp;nbsp;Civil Tools &amp;gt;Horizontal Geometry &amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;Arc to Element tool&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/600x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps2.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;a. Select the&amp;nbsp;element tangent line to LAND on&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;b. set or lock the offset to zero&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;c. Toggle to the End Tangent Method&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;d. Paste&amp;nbsp;the angle from step 2 CNTR V , enter to lock&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;e. snap to the&amp;nbsp;BEGIN &amp;nbsp;point of the ARC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/600x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps3.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;f. Trim back&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/600x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/workflowsteps4.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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