profile along wall that doesn't follow baseline

I have a weird situation that I'm not sure how to do using Inroads.

I have a retaining wall that is on a curve that I need to show the "developed" elevation view of and display the baseline stationing which is on a different curve center.  I also need to show the proposed ground line at the front face of barrier(gutter) and front face of wall (1.75' offset from gutter).  I have those as two different surfaces.

Probably the easiest thing to do would be to cut the profile at front face of wall and then take the one surface at that point and the other surface offset 1.75'.  The problem is, I need the stationing to be shown along the baseline not the wall itself so 50' won't actually be 50'.

The other option would be to have show the baseline correctly but I'm not sure how you would then show the two surfaces since they aren't a constant offset from the baseline.

Anyone have any ideas?

This is using Inroads Select series 2.

  • Marc, I'm kinda following what you are after. First, I would cut the Profile along the path that the stationing is based on. That way you get the stationing values correct. Whenever I have to show an offset surface line on a profile like that, that is not a constant distance from the baseline, just use Project Feature. If you have a line for the wall, then modify its Style to be able to Project Feature in Profile view, and make sure you have a define Profile Line set up under the Symbology. If you don't have a physical line, then just draw the line, or drape an existing MicroStation line onto that surface at that location ...assigning a Style that will allow the Project to Profile. Have you tried that? I can explain more if needed.
     
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  • That's the way I have it shown now and I think it would make more sense if I could "stretch out" or develop the wall so that it is shown correctly along the wall (100' of wall is 100') but this would make the stationing not correct since it's radial and on a different radius. But I have no idea how to do the stationing this way. I've done it manually before but there must be some weird way to do it in inroads. If not, I may just keep it the way I have it now.
  • Wow ...thinking about this makes my head spin a little. I'm still trying to figure out how to concisely describe the end result. Do you want to 1) create a profile using the wall baseline, but 2) be able to project the wall onto the baseline profile, and 3) be able to have the wall stationing be dimensionally correct on the baseline profile? That would mean the baseline 100' is not actually 100', but a 100' of wall IS actually 100', right? (I don't even know what I just said ; ) ... It would be awesome if you could define the beginning station on a Feature, but they always start with 0+00 so that won't work. (I've tried that - stationing the Feature using "its" stationing, not the centerline stationing.)

    Have you thought about creating two profiles overlaying one another? If the baseline of the wall, and the wall itself are actually parallel, you could figure out the exact horizontal scale to apply to the baseline profile to distort it horizontally. That would get you the 100' of baseline = to 100' of wall. And then create another profile of the wall on top of that profile. But you would need a common reference point between the two, almost like a Station Equation location. ... you have to admit that would fit your criteria of a "weird way" : )
     
    Civilly yours,
    The Zen Dude (also known as "Mark")
    Civil Software Guru & Philosopher
    InRoads User since its birth in the 80's
    OpenRoads Documentation / Training / Support
    Zen Engineering, Owner
  • That's exactly what I would like to do. Being that it's dealing with 2 different radius' it just makes it all the more complicated. It also gets more complicated as some of the wall is on a radius and some on a tangent. The baseline at least is all on a single curve. It sure does make ones head hurt. I think I may just cheat and cut the profile using the ramp baseline and just drape features and display them like you said in your first post.