Power InRoads V08.11.09.878_SS4
Once I create a cross sections set in Microstation model in openRoads, is there a way to update cross sections such as display crossing or project features?
James
Hi James,
Yes, you can update the cross sections for features and crossing features. Once you have the cross sections created, select the option "Annotate Cross Section" in the "Corridor Modelling" task (just besides 'Create Cross Section' option). Here you will find the "Features" category, you can select the "Crossing features" you want to display.
MaryB
Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918Power InRoads 08.11.09.918OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2
Christopher Hartke said:Good morning; I am bumping this old thread. I can't believe Bentley hasn't offered this yet. There is no excuse.
Good morning;
I am bumping this old thread. I can't believe Bentley hasn't offered this yet. There is no excuse.
What does it mean? What do you like to ask in detail?
Others here (Caddcop) stated that this features are real with OpenRoads Designer.
I'm out since 3 years, last was InRoads SS2).
I would like to know how far "dynamic" profiles and cross sections, with automatic annotation has got, based on changes in 2D/3D in the base map alignments and survey data, DTM's.
Regards
Frank
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Hi Frank;
To be specific. When cross sections are generated. They create individual cross section cells that contain the georeferenced space, northing, easting, elevation for each cross section. When you update or regenerate the model, these cells cannot be reused like they could be in every other generation of Geopak/Design software since the 90's. Cross sections are a deliverable for most DOTs still and it is impractical to have a perfect model. Therefore, hand edits are always needed and losing this effort every time the model updates is bad business. Additionally, being able to easily compare previous design iterations in cross section is important.
To the second part. The open roads profile tool is still terrible. They need to reintroduce the VPI GUI. This is how profiles are designed. by Sta, Grade and curve length. The current graphical interface makes it difficult to control these 3 things.
Dynamic is still a fail in Open Roads. Program crashes often and can't handle much in terms of template complexity or corridor length. I currently have a 13 Mi long project. Had to break it up into 4 separate corridors and it still struggles to run, refresh. I had to break up the profile 4 separate profiles because Open Roads crashes half the time trying to import the full length.
Don't even mention Connect Edition until it meets the deliverable requirements of TxDOT.
Thank you very much for these details.
You are welcome. Hope a Bentley Rep weighs in...
Christopher Hartke said:To the second part. The open roads profile tool is still terrible. They need to reintroduce the VPI GUI. This is how profiles are designed. by Sta, Grade and curve length. The current graphical interface makes it difficult to control these 3 things.
It really isn't that difficult to control them, with the right workflow. I recommend establishing tangents and snapping to intersections between those tangents. These things I caution anyone that I'm training:
Is it trivially easy? No. Does it take extra time? Yes. Will the extra time invested help in the absence of better software tooling? Yes. Could it be a lot easier without a peculiar workflow? Also yes.
I do have to admit, certain features of the VPI GUI could be adapted for OpenRoads design paradigm. I mean, look at the superelevation editor they've given us, which is suspiciously similar to what I could imagine is a result that you might like.
But anyway, to make preliminary design more accessible, I would recommend one key addition to alignment and profile toolsets:
Allow us to establish alignments and profiles by a sequence of tangents rather than a sequence of PIs or VPIs.
This would be an additional tool, alongside the continued function of the PI/VPI tools. That would go an immensely long distance to making early draft design immeasurably easier. I say this because intersection snaps for PI and VPI are often unreliable, and besides, very tedious to adjust once I decide to add a new tangent.
Of course none of that really touches on cross sections per se, though I understand that it influences your cross sections which leads to the refresher on this cross section auto-update feature we all want.
Christopher Hartke said:Dynamic is still a fail in Open Roads. Program crashes often and can't handle much in terms of template complexity or corridor length. I currently have a 13 Mi long project. Had to break it up into 4 separate corridors and it still struggles to run, refresh. I had to break up the profile 4 separate profiles because Open Roads crashes half the time trying to import the full length.
I have worked on quite a number of projects. None have been as long as 13 miles, but they have been pretty complex. What are your settings on your template drop frequency and your corridor design stage?