PowerCivil geometry - can someone test if this leads to crash?

I am sending video with instructions how crash powercivil for 100% in a few seconds and create element that is undeletable, unselectable... anything associated with this element leading to crash.

  • ok. what version of powercivil are you using?

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  • This affects me as well on Power Geopak SS4 .878. After forcing Geopak closed, I opened the file again. Clicking the element freezes it again.

    I was able to select it in the Civil Model listing, then right-click it, then delete it that way.

    Petr, do you have any idea how many steps would have to be different in order to work around this problem? By this I mean to ask what range of tools does this continue to affect? For example, is the relevant part of this that you used delete partial, do you think?

    Edit: I noticed that if you delete partial prior to doing the fillet, apparently you are entirely unable to select both segments, neither as components of complex or as whole elements.

  • ok. you are not using the tools as intended. the first tool, place alignment by pi, you can tell it the radius of the curve while placing it and therefore eliminating the need to edit a complex alignment (not recommended). If you want, you can create two lines that intersect and fit the radius that way.
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  • This is a big problem use the tools as someone intend. I think the program gives the user tools and is on him how he use them. If something does not work it's a bug in the program. Surely you do not have to every problem that the user needs to resolve separate instruction or video. In this case, I could just insert the arc in the creation of geometry, but there are cases where I can not.

    It therefore reason to report this problems, or Bentley knows them, but is no reason to solve them? But how to recognize abnormal usage from bugs?

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  • I think the issue Nico is pointing out is that in the video you are using the Complex by PI tool which already has built in the option of setting the radius of the curves. If you used it properly, you wouldn't be cutting out some of the linework and you wouldn't be assembling a complex alignment from the bits that remain.

    It seems that the anticipated workflow is to use Line Between Points (or any number of other tools), and then create fillets between these simple elements, and then create one complex element from all those.

    That said, I can definitely see that someone might do Complex by PI as a shortcut. There are technical and also design issues with taking that route: among them is that if you do go that route you can only move the PIs down the road, whereas the usual case of having separate line segments allows you to establish bearings more flexibly.

    In the end, here's what I found: If you do all the same steps as the original post, it will work if you insert a step just before creating the fillet to drop complex on the element you created with Complex by PI.

    Personally, I'd agree with you that this looks and feels like a bug. It's probably a manifestation of the design analog to object types in programming.