[OR] Civil Geometry - Insert/Delete Vertex for Plan or Profile

What are the Rules for where and when one can use Insert or Delete Vertex with Civil Geometry - in Plan and/or Profile?

My experience has shown it is often not allowed but no special prompts are given - just that nothing happens when you try to use it..

  • I think only the straight line portions will work. There are a great many profiles which result from the various commands which generate a spline graphic and inserting in a curved portion doesn't really make sense either.

    Robert Garrett
    Senior Consultant

    www.envisioncad.com

  • When I have generated a profile from some type of offset/slope, I found I can remove the rule and then the profile is basically linestrings. If I select the profile, I can then drag a handle on top of an adjacent handle and is appears to merge them together. Seems like at that point, delete vertex should be possible and should work.

    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • It looks like insert vertex is not permitted in this specific workflow.

    1. Create a profile by slope or vertical offset from an element
    2. Remove rules
    3. try to insert a vertex: it doesn't work.

    The same workflow when replacing "Remove Rules" by "Drop" does work because the resulting element is a "line string" instead of a "profile".
    It is also possible to add rules to the previous and it does also work but to my point of view "drop" is better in this workflow.

    I don't see any reason why we can't insert a vertex in a profile we got by the first workflow.
    Something that doesn't look to be critical or a real issue, but if we can remove this limitation it would be better.



    Answer Verified By: caddcop 

  • We really need tools like the Add/Remove/Move PI/VPI tools of the legacy products. A "warning" that enabling this edit will release and dependencies, resulting in a basic ruled alignment would be acceptable.  Likewise, the Horizontal/Vertical Element tools of InRoads Application Add-In is also pretty much a necessity.

    I often find myself taking far longer to accomplish alignment tasks in Ss4 than I would in Ss2.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996