Use of SS4 Feature Definitions in ORD

Hi all,

As a lot of us have quite a number of established feature definitions in our SS4 workspaces, can these feature definitions be used or migrated to ORD without recreating the whole lot?

Understandably native styles will be gone but we already have all ours pointing to element templates in preparation for ORD.

Cheers,

Mark

  • Here are my findings...

    1. In the file
    "C:\ProgramData\Bentley\OpenRoads Designer CONNECT 10.00.00\Configuration\WorkSpaces\Arcadis-NSW.cfg"
    The line number 35 should read like this:

    CIVIL_WORKSPACE_TEMPLATE_LIBRARY_NAME = W2B-Templates-B3.itl

    …as this is to only set the name and no path is needed.

    2. Your Feature Definitions Mesh settings do not include the pointer to their feature symbologies. You missed this column in your spreadsheet. This is why your templates are not showing correct.

    3. The slow down of the template editor is because you are including a DGNLib of Subsurface Utilities that has not been converted. It is seeing features in this file and trying to resolve but it can’t.
    "C:\ProgramData\Bentley\OpenRoads Designer CONNECT 10.00.00\Configuration\WorkSpaces\Arcadis-NSW\Standards\Dgnlib\Feature Definitions\RMS Subsurface Utilities Feature Definitions.dgnlib"

    If you rename that files extension to something like *.old, then the problem goes away. This DGNLib will need to be updated.

    4. In the file "C:\ProgramData\Bentley\OpenRoads Designer CONNECT 10.00.00\Configuration\WorkSpaces\Arcadis-NSW.cfg" line # 99 is wrong. It should read like this:

    MS_DGNLIBLIST > $(_USTN_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/Feature Definitions/*.dgnlib

    5. When importing the symbologies and features, make sure to always start with a new dgnlib if you are going to do the bulk editing.


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    Regards,

    Mark


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12)  |  Microstation 2023  |  ProjectWise CE 3.4

  • Mark, please email me directly your SS4 dgnlib(s) so I can take a look.

    Thanks,
    Chuck

    chuck.lawson@bentley.com


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  • Thanks Chuck,

    Unfortunately I don't see any terrain model display options in the original SS4 data (see below) - could it be anything else?

    SS4 Feature Definition:

    SS4 Element Template:



    ORD Feature Definition:



    ORD Element Template:


    Regards,

    Mark


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12)  |  Microstation 2023  |  ProjectWise CE 3.4

  • Mark, the way the upgrade for Surface Features works is as follows:

    1. If in SELECTseries 4, the Surface Feature uses an Element Template where the Element Template has enabled properties for a Terrain Model Display, then the Surface Feature will get converted to an OpenRoads Terrain Model Feature Definition.

    2. If in SELECTseries 4, the Surface Feature uses an Element Template where the Element Template does not enable properties for a Terrain Model Display, then the Surface Feature will get converted to an OpenRoads Mesh Feature Definition.

    Thanks,
    Chuck


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