End Conditions Not Showing Up in Surface

Hello,

I have inherited a model and inRoads files from another company who I cannot contact for help in how they created the model or what version of inRoads/Microstation they used. 

The issue I am experiencing is when I am in Roadway Designer, the model is able to solve and the end conditions are visible (as shown in the image below).  However, when I create the surface, it does not include any of the end condition zones.  For example, in the image below, the contours stop directly after the berm next to the road instead of including the 10' of fill on the left side of the road and 35' of fill on the right side.  We were provided a proposed contour file from the other company and their contours do extend to the correct elevations to tie-in to the existing ground. 

  

Our contours:   

Provided contours:

 I am currently using inRoads SS2 with Microstation V8i SS3.  Could this be a function of the other company using a different version of these products?  If so, should we be using an older or newer version of one of the products?  Or could there be some unknown clip boundary that they have used to only display the road and ditches and ignore the end conditions?  If so, how would I find that information?  Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide!

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  • I don't think it would be a version type issue, but what is the exact version of InRoads you are using (i.e. 08.11.07.615)?

    Since you can see it solving in the Roadway Designer, I would think it should solve when the surface is created.  There are two things I would suggest to look at:

    1. Do you have any clipping turned on?  In the Roadway Designer, go to the Create Surface command and there is a button for 'Clipping Options'.  Check in here to see if you have any clipping on.  It could be clipping the end conditions only so they don't get created when you create the surface.

    2. When you run the Create Surface command, toggle on the option for 'Empty Surface' so it can clear out any features from the design surface and create the surface new/fresh.  If there was any sort of exterior boundary created from a previous run, that feature could still exist in the surface and could be controlling the triangulation inadvertently.


    For more information about the Road and Site design tools, visit the Road and Site design WIKI at: http://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki

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  • I don't think it would be a version type issue, but what is the exact version of InRoads you are using (i.e. 08.11.07.615)?

    Since you can see it solving in the Roadway Designer, I would think it should solve when the surface is created.  There are two things I would suggest to look at:

    1. Do you have any clipping turned on?  In the Roadway Designer, go to the Create Surface command and there is a button for 'Clipping Options'.  Check in here to see if you have any clipping on.  It could be clipping the end conditions only so they don't get created when you create the surface.

    2. When you run the Create Surface command, toggle on the option for 'Empty Surface' so it can clear out any features from the design surface and create the surface new/fresh.  If there was any sort of exterior boundary created from a previous run, that feature could still exist in the surface and could be controlling the triangulation inadvertently.


    For more information about the Road and Site design tools, visit the Road and Site design WIKI at: http://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki

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