When using Openroads Designer, how to bring back side toolbar just like Power Civil?

Could Openroads Designer display side toolbar just like Power Civil? I am not quite familiar with the ribbon interface on ORD, so I want to change back to side toolbar just like what Power Civil looks. See below picture. Some of our customers have the same question.

I searched similar questions, and found that V8i style Tasks could be displayed in MicroStation CONNECT Edition using the configuration variable MS TASKNAVIGATION CONFIGURATION. 

The website is: https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/24481/how-to-display-the-v8i-style-tasks-dialog-in-microstation-connect-edition

And I tried this method on ORD but it did not work. Maybe there is other configuration variable that we could change in order to solve this problem?

Thank you for your help!

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  • Hi, does anyone know why I do not have the "Task Navigation" option available in my workflow list in ORD?  it is available and working in plain vanilla Microstation Connect Edition, but for some reason not available in ORD.  Both were installed at the same time.  I have ORD version 10.08.00.088 Release 1 Update 8.  I have seen videos where "Task Navigation" is available in ORD (see image 1) but mine shows as (image 2)  I've tried adding the MS_TASKNAVIGATION_CONFIGURATION variable and set to 1, but if, under settings, I choose "Open the Task Navigations user interface" nothing happens.  Also should be noted that, under preferences, "Task Navigation" does NOT show up under Category.  My only guess is this feature is not supported on my version of ORD? But it works fine on Microstation as mentioned which is weird.  Any help would be great as I am a long time Microstation InRoads user and miss this feature in ORD.

    Does anyone know how to get the "Task Navigation" workflow to be available in ORD (image 1)

    Is it not supported in my version 10.08.00.088 Release 1 Update 8.

    IMAGE 1:

    IMAGE2:

    Thanks,

    Aaron

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  • Hi, does anyone know why I do not have the "Task Navigation" option available in my workflow list in ORD?  it is available and working in plain vanilla Microstation Connect Edition, but for some reason not available in ORD.  Both were installed at the same time.  I have ORD version 10.08.00.088 Release 1 Update 8.  I have seen videos where "Task Navigation" is available in ORD (see image 1) but mine shows as (image 2)  I've tried adding the MS_TASKNAVIGATION_CONFIGURATION variable and set to 1, but if, under settings, I choose "Open the Task Navigations user interface" nothing happens.  Also should be noted that, under preferences, "Task Navigation" does NOT show up under Category.  My only guess is this feature is not supported on my version of ORD? But it works fine on Microstation as mentioned which is weird.  Any help would be great as I am a long time Microstation InRoads user and miss this feature in ORD.

    Does anyone know how to get the "Task Navigation" workflow to be available in ORD (image 1)

    Is it not supported in my version 10.08.00.088 Release 1 Update 8.

    IMAGE 1:

    IMAGE2:

    Thanks,

    Aaron

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  • They just released a new version a few days ago and according to the What's New readme, it is finally fixed and available. But the number of tools offered is the question. No Open Roads tools are supplied - they are all in the Ribbon. As far as MicroStation tools, You will have to upgrade and try it out. This version also includes a method to roll a file back to an earlier version, making it less problematic to move to a newer version. Notice I don't say it solves the problem, as when this happens, its usually someone on the older version who can't open the file, but the tool to roll back is in the version that can open the file as is. 


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration
    Maryland DOT - State Highway Administration User Communities Page

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • MicroStation and ORD are not built on the same version - ORD is always a version or two behind MicroStation. And the MicroStation method of having two or three places to find a tool seems to have been discarded in favor of the ribbon. That said, you should be able to customize your interface if you need to. We shouldn't need to, but at least it's an option.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • MicroStation and ORD are not built on the same version - ORD is always a version or two behind MicroStation.

    It's not true! E.g. the latest ORD 2020 Release 3 is based on PowerPlatform CE U14.4, which is newer than MicroStation itself.

    In my opinion some confusion is based on (wrong) idea that products like ORD are built on top of MicroStation. It's not correct and it was explained by Bentley in different discussions several times already: There is so called PowerPlaform, which is close to MicroStation, but is not MicroStation itself. Every product (MicroStation, ORD, OCM...) is based on this platform, which means not everything what is included in MicroStation is automatically included in other products also. And vice versa, some tools, even when they look like common, can be included (for any reason) in particular product only (like Expression Builder that is available in ORD for several versions, but not in MicroStation yet).

    With regards,

      Jan

  • They just released a new version a few days ago and according to the What's New readme, it is finally fixed and available.

    Yes, ORD 2020 Release 3 Update 9 (who invented such complicated naming?) offers V8i task theme.

    But the number of tools offered is the question. No Open Roads tools are supplied - they are all in the Ribbon.

    That's right: V8 task navigation contains MicroStation tools only. All civil tools remain in ribbon.

    Regards,

      Jan

  • I actually suspect that the platform developments teams are working independently, which would certainly explain the variations in whatever's available. It sure seems like it...

    I think a lot of confusion could be avoided if all products WERE built on an identical base. Start with MicroStation and develop from there. I KNOW it's no longer that easy, but it would definitely eliminate the bulk of "Why can I do this "here" but not "there"?" Maintaining similar but not identical platforms sounds like a slow rolling nightmare of version inconsistency.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2