When using Openroads Designer, how to bring back side toolbar just like Power Civil?

Could Openroads Designer display side toolbar just like Power Civil? I am not quite familiar with the ribbon interface on ORD, so I want to change back to side toolbar just like what Power Civil looks. See below picture. Some of our customers have the same question.

I searched similar questions, and found that V8i style Tasks could be displayed in MicroStation CONNECT Edition using the configuration variable MS TASKNAVIGATION CONFIGURATION. 

The website is: https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/24481/how-to-display-the-v8i-style-tasks-dialog-in-microstation-connect-edition

And I tried this method on ORD but it did not work. Maybe there is other configuration variable that we could change in order to solve this problem?

Thank you for your help!

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  • but it misses the mark from a user's (customer's) point of view.

    That's valid point for sure, but I am not probably the right person to play this role :-)

    Bentley has always marketed the xRoads tools, at least to the bulk of its customers, as MicroStation plus the civil tool.

    I am not typical civil user (in fact, I learned civil products a bit primarily because of my customers ;-), so I am not very familiar with civil marketing, but I think what you mentioned is how V8 civil products (InRoads / MX / GEOPAK) were marketed, because technically they were addins to MicroStation installation.

    But this idea changed in V8i time when PowerCivil line of products was released, because they were pre-packed installations, individually customized for particular markets, so set of features were different (and all MicroStation feature were not always included).

    Customers have been told that they don't need MicroStation if they buy a Power platform product because all of MicroStation tools are included.

    As was explained by somebody from Bentley in another discussion, in fact today all products, including MicroStation itself (maybe Descartes is an exception) are "power products", because all are individual packages, based on "power platform". This paradigm change was not communicated properly and I agree it leads to a confusion (no more "product on top of MicroStation", but always individual industry specific solutions).

    Bentley has been descending into the software developer abyss for a while - where the customer is no longer king.

    I agree Bentley ignored users' priorities in CE generation development for a long time, with the result the most of user still remain on V8, which after 5 years of existence of MicroStation CE is just a disaster.

    But I disagree too. In my opinion it's wrong to discuss "Bentley" as "one subject", because it's now an enterprise level corporation with all related (dis)advantages, plus extremely wide portfolio, so it's like to discuss current weather in Prague with arguments related to average climate in Europe in last 10 years.

    When talking about individual products (like ORD), concrete people are responsible for the product itself, how it will be developed, what feature will be included and what GUI used. They should response to these types of discussions.

    It seems that most large developers, this is certainly not limited to Bentley, have determined they know better than their customers what is best for them.

    You are right. My experience is that it's a common process that happens when a product become complex or a company grows over some extent. But in the case of Bentley I think it has been caused also allocation many sources (representing a huge amount of experience both from real projects, software development and management) to activities related to iTwins / iModelJS. Consequently, development did not meet Bentley quality (in my opinion it was improved and it's fine now), but especially design and specifications are done by people without enough real experience. I remember some discussions I had with developers in the past and at the end we realized the problem was not in the code, but the specification what should be implemented was evidently done by somebody who was e.g. not aware of possibility of multilanguage environment (Windows in different language than MicroStation, plus project delivered to a customer in another country).

    With regards,

      Jan

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