ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Colin Mucci — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 13:22:30 GMT

Thanks for the pointers Marc. I'll keep them in mind next time i'm using the tool

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Marc Bachand — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:06:54 GMT

With the complex redefine tool I find it works better if you pick the base elements rather than the complex elements. The base elements would be the ones that you placed to build the complex. These are the "ghosted" graphics that you can select if you hover over the trimmed portion of the element; or, the non-visible parts of the interval elements.

Also, you can not select a dependent element as something as a base for the redefine. The redefining elements must be either fixed elements (two point lines or 3 point arcs, or floating elements dependent on some other element for this tool to work. This may require you to go back further in the alignment that originally expected.

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Colin Mucci — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:09:40 GMT

I encounter the exact same issue somewhat regularly and usually have to resort to dropping and reconstructing the entire alignment which is extremely inefficient. I really hope Bentley is working to resolve this and a number of other openroads problems. Thanks

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Benjamin Patch — Wed, 18 Mar 2020 20:27:14 GMT

I have this issue, exactly as described by the OP. The file is in the workset for this tutorial. It is the named "Geometry.dgn". This is the log:

Exception caught in source file e:\Builds\cif10080088\Source\Cif\src\managed\ui\tools\PrimitiveCommand\PrimitiveCommand.cs at method OnDataButtonInternal

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Exception : Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

In Assembly : Bentley.CifNET.GeometryModel.4.0

Stack Trace :
at Bentley.CifNET.GeometryModel.ComplexRuleHelper.SplitEntryUsingIntervals(ComplexRuleEntry entryToSplit, PointEntity2d splitPointEntity, IList`1 ruleToDelete)
at Bentley.CifNET.GeometryModel.PeristenceEnabledComplexRuleWrapper.SplitAndCreateBreak(LinearEntity2d thisEntity, Boolean startOfEntity, Boolean cplxIsReverse, Boolean& circularDependency)
at Bentley.CifNET.GeometryModel.PeristenceEnabledComplexRuleWrapper.RedefineComplexEntity(LinearEntity2d thisEntity, ComplexRuleWrapper& alternateSectionRule, Boolean appendAlternative)
at Bentley.CifNET.GeometryModel.Tools.RedefineComplexElement.LocateElementState.OnEntered()
at Bentley.CifNET.UI.Tools.ObjectEntryState.DoObjectSelected()
at Bentley.CifNET.UI.Tools.ObjectEntryState.OnObjectPicked(ObjectKey pickedObject, ObjectKey pickedObjectParent, DPoint3d point)
at Bentley.CifNET.UI.Tools.ObjectEntryState.OnObjectPicked(ObjectKey pickedObject, ObjectKey pickedObjectParent, IButtonEvent buttonEvent)
at Bentley.CifNET.UI.Tools.PrimitiveCommand.<>c__DisplayClass106_0.<OnDataButtonInternal>b__0()
at Bentley.CifNET.UI.Tools.PrimitiveCommand.ManagedBooleanCallBack(Func`1 method, Boolean exitCommandAndCleanupCaches, Boolean retValue, String message, String memberName, String sourceFilePath, Int32 sourceLineNumber)

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Adlf — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:43:15 GMT

Is there any way to solve this problem?

RE: ORD - Complex Redefine Troubleshooting

Simon Pegg — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:13:50 GMT

Can you attach or send me the DGN you are having trouble with. I've tried the complex redefine and it does appear to be doing some odd things. I just want to confirm with your data that its something similar to what I am seeing. I can then look at a solution and log a defect if required.

Simon Pegg]

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