Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Thu, 28 Mar 2019 13:19:57 GMT

Enhancement 728790: Sync Feature Definitions and OpenRoads Standards from DGN to linked DGN Library https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Peter Drake — Thu, 28 Mar 2019 06:03:51 GMT

Hi Simon,

Did you ever find this enhancement?

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Simon Pegg — Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:38:44 GMT

Stewart

I have a feeeling there is already an enhancement in for this. I'll check our database and report back.

Simon Pegg

Bentley Civil Support

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Stewart Hellen — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:21:11 GMT

That's something that's always really bugged me. Any chance of an enhancement whereby we could sync our dgn to update feature definitions etc from the dgnlib?

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:59:17 GMT

When you use a Feature Definition/Feature Symbology/Annotation Group/Annotation Definition from a dgnlib in your dgn, it copies the information from the dgnlib to the dgn when you first use the Feature Definition. If you make changes in the dgnlib, then open the dgn back up, it will not update the dgn's Feature Definition. That is because it will see that the dgn already has the Feature Definition. If you want the dgn to use the new Feature Definition or Annotation Group, then delete it in the dgn. Reload the dgn and use the feature definition once to reload the changes. If you made changes to the Annotation Group in the dgnlib, you will need to delete the Annotation Definitions that the Annotation Group point to and the Annotation Group. Then when you create a new line with the Feature Definition, it will pull it from the dgnlib.

This video explains this workflow in SS4: https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki/18899/video-updating-feature-definitions-from-a-revised-dgnlib. The difference in OpenRoads Designer from SS4 is that the ability to copy from a dgnlib to the dgn is not available. This is why you would have to delete it. This functionality is planned to come in a future release.

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Sigfus Jonsson — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:51:45 GMT

Hi again Holly

1. I create vertical geometry with Feature Definition "Geom_Baseline_Driveway" in a designfile

2. I open Feature Definition Metric.dgnlib

Open Explorer, Feature Definition, Alignment...

"Profile Feature Symbology" is Geom_Baseline_Driveway

3. I move down to "Feature Symbology", Profile, Alignment and choose Geom_Baseline_Driveway

4. Right click and choose properties.

I change "Annotation Group" to the group I have created

I have change feature definition as well in Features_Annotations_Levels_Elem Temp Metric.dgnlib the same way as in Feature Definition Metric.dgnlib

...I still get the same old standard profile annotation for my profile

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:42:01 GMT

Write down the name of the Feature Definition assigned to your profile
Open Explorer
Go to the OpenRoads Standards tab and expand Feature Definitions to navigate to the location of the Feature Definition of your profile.
Right click on the Feature Definition name and select Properties.
1. This is where you change the Profile Feature Symbology

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Sigfus Jonsson — Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:42:00 GMT

Sorry, but I have not been able to locate where I change Profile Feature Symbology for my profile :-(

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:03:28 GMT

See this wiki: https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/w/road_and_site_design__wiki/36305/what-is-an-annotation-group.

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Sigfus Jonsson — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:58:21 GMT

Could you maybe post some screenshoot which help me to understand the location of Feature Symbology.

/Sigfus

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:50:25 GMT

The Linear Annotation Group should be called out by the Feature Symbology of the profile's Feature Definition. When you go to use the command Annotate Model, it will use this Annotation Group to annotate based on how the Feature Definition is defined. I would make sure that the profile you are trying to annotate has a Feature Definition. Then make sure that the Feature Definition's Feature Symbology is pointing to the Annotation Group.

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Sigfus Jonsson — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:45:28 GMT

Hi Holly

I use Annotation Group called SM_Profile_2018_04_18 which is based on Profile Grid. My problem is that I don't know how I connect it to our Linear Profile Annotation caller SM_Profile_Annotation

RE: Annotation Group - Drawing and Linear in ORD upd. 3

Holly Herring — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:53:30 GMT

The quick answer is to set the Annotation Group to the correct group that you want to use within the Create Drawing dialog.

If you want it to default to this location, you will need to watch training videos on workspace setup for ORD. Here's a link: https://learn.bentley.com/app/Public/ViewLearningPathWithMasterCourseExpanded?lpId=111346&mcId=102596. The step 7 video series goes over Sheet creation.