ORD Plan Production Method

I wanted to see how people are managing ORD plan production, specifically with regards to plan views cut on curves.

We have working through some thoughts on how to clean up this process, and have had difficulty finding a workflow that I would be comfortable taking to you users as a process to go from the model to plan, or plan/profile sheets. I suppose related to the conversation, does anyone know how the positioning of the drawing reference into the sheet is determined? One workflow we attempted was creating named boundaries with the "From Drawing Boundary" option (since it gives boundaries that would match the destination size and shape) so that we could adjust the "Civil Plan" named boundaries to match this. While this updated the shape and limits of the clipping in the reference, they would be located offset or twisted. I would be very interested in hearing how users are leveraging these tools.

May the conversation begin!!!

Thanks,

Steve

  • Interesting thought, Mark...

    Sorry not to have addressed your questions until now, Steven. When I reclip, I do such directly on the sheets, and I annotate directly on the drawing model for complex geometry and the base model for more simplified geometry (we always are suffering with such decisions :-) ). As far as I can tell, there seems no manner of auto-generating a match line. Perhaps in a later release?

    Mark

    Mark Anthony Plum
    Chief Technology Officer

    1601 N.W. Expressway, Suite 400
    Oklahoma City, OK  73118
      
  • Thanks for the thoughts here Mark. I am still unconvinced on the placement, it seems to be pretty close to putting the middle of a line from the alignment ends to the center of the view, at least vertically, but always seems to align on the left side.

    When you do your "reclipping" are you doing that in the Drawing model or on the sheet?

    I like the "From Drawing Boundary" because the clips aren't perpendicular but match the shape on the sheet, although I see the benefit of clipping perpendicular. Question for you, what do you annotate/draft in the base model vs. the drawing model?

    I am unaware of a match line process...at first I read this as you asking if I new that there was a way. I think figuring that out would be a big leap for our implementation!

    Steven Litzau, P.E. - Senior Consultant

    www.envisioncad.com

    ORD - 10.12.02.04 / 10.10.21.04 / 10.10.01.03 / 10.08.01.33
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    Civil 3D - 2021 / 2022

  • Setting the 'Boundary Chords' to 0 will give you a rectangular Named Boundary, which would have its size set to match the 'box' shown at the top of your sheet.



  • Steve

    It would appear that the drawing file is referenced into the sheet as a best fit from the named boundary (along the centerline with Horizontal distance and offsets as defined by the named boundary/ sheet seed). For complex geometry as you have shown here, we create separate plan and profile sheets, and even then the reference drawings to the sheets often have need to be reclipped. The program does a nice job of creating sheets and especially with the use of an annotation group to rotate that pesky North arrow, LOL. As regards named boundary from drawing boundary, I have been unsuccessful with that method for anything other than straight roads for the reason that clips are never perpendicular to the alignments. For myself, I have created a series of sheet seed libraries for every sheet which we use and assigned different annotation groups based upon horizontal and vertical scales. Are you aware of a method to automatically attach match lines to the drawing file?

    Mark

    On a related note, we do ALL of our drafting within the base file or the attached drawing file. One can actually get coordinates from the sheet file by setting the ACS to "by reference", if it is wished (as the sheet files are actually located at 0, 0).

    Mark Anthony Plum
    Chief Technology Officer

    1601 N.W. Expressway, Suite 400
    Oklahoma City, OK  73118