OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

Steven Litzau — Tue, 05 Feb 2019 14:02:45 GMT

I too, concur with Ray's thoughts. I will add another consideration, by the end of the day, I will have worked with at least 5 agencies/organizations in the last two weeks, and have three new organizations in the pipeline for the coming weeks. I can't uninstall/reinstall each time I change tasks to match a given version. This was a HUGE strength of the DGN and Bentley's approach for years, if I was on the same generation of product, I rarely had issue between versions. The move to the "Open" platforms, that was, in part as I understand it, to facilitate data sharing between disciplines through the common DGN format now doesn't work with a the same software released 3 months ago in the SAME discipline. Since, again as Ray indicates, the tools are incomplete, the evolution of the format seems primed to continue as we get to a fully featured ORD. Clearly "preaching to the choir" here, but I am not sure of any other mechanism to communicate these concerns to Bentley, although I do fear they may fall on deaf ears.

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

The Zen Dude — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 18:44:37 GMT

The Ditko dude ditto's Ray's sentiment. These are interesting times to say the least.

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

Ray Thwaits — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 18:24:52 GMT

This is a significant flaw of Bentley's development of the OpenRoads tools. It has been a beef of mine for some time. I have yet to understand Bentley's abandonment of mature, fully capable civil tools (SS2, all flavors) in favor of tools that are not ready for production work. It's not that the OpenRoads tools will not be capable or productive; it's that they have yet to get there.

Bentley's stock response is to update to the latest version. That's simply not an option within large organizations with dozens, or hundreds, of users. Those organizations need to confirm with every update that the new version is compatible with all of the other software and security policies within the organization. That can sometimes take months. Quarterly updates are not going to happen.

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

Robert Garrett — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:49:22 GMT

It is not always true that backwards compatibility is broken with every update. There was a break between 10.03 and 10.04 which I experienced. I was not aware of another break between 4 and 5, so I suspect you are experiencing the break which actually occurred at 10.04. I think (could be wrong) that 10.04 will open the file in question.

As noted, the solution is to migrate to a newer version. Of course, this is not always a simple decision considering you may have clients which each demand different versions.

This specific example is due to OpenRoads part of the product. Other CONNECT products may have different practices.

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MaryB — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:17:20 GMT

And none of them can be opened by an earlier version? That's going to leave a mess when trying to share files between different partners, clients, etc...

It's one thing if older software can't read the newer product. It's another level of confusion when you can't save the newer product backward for the older software to read. That's bad.

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Carl Kepple — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:13:31 GMT

Just to be clear, new versions are incompatible with older versions?

Is this true for the OpenRoads or all CONNECT Generation Products?

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Erik — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:46:11 GMT

there are 4 update releases a year

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Erik — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:45:27 GMT

Yes. Be carefull what you share in terms of version

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Carl Kepple — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:40:18 GMT

Hi Eric,

I thought that might be the case.

So anybody we send the file to will have to have the same version or newer in order for them to use it, correct?

The R6 version uses Bentley’s new CONNECT Licensing yes?

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

Erik — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:31:22 GMT

Hi , Carl

you can’t save back the file. Update your install of open roads designers the latest version. R6

RE: OpenRoads Error Newer Civil Data Found

Erik — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:00 GMT

Hi , Carl

you can’t save back the file. Update your install of open roads designers the latest version. R6