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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/177703/open-roads-designer-upgrade-suggestions</link><description>We are working on an ORD project as a sub-consultant to another firm. We share terrain models, corridors, alignments, etc. Our partner firm is using ORD Version 2018, Release 4, Update 6 (10.06.00.38). We were considering updating our software to ORD</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/638112?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 15:48:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:d26d3c84-6fb1-45df-af98-0c86b40ff797</guid><dc:creator>Alex White</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Can any one clarify why Bentley would do something like this? This is making file sharing with my clients impossible and beyond frustrating.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/593106?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:27:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:55c508b6-28a8-4eb2-8df7-0b8e681fdb70</guid><dc:creator>caddcop</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;As one who manages the CAD Standards for a State DOT Agency, these are issues that also concern us. I have 20 years of private industry experience, so I know the issues described from experience and try to make sure our actions do not impose undue requirements on our consultants.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/593090?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:11:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:78c2a20c-d448-4730-8992-5973995c8b7f</guid><dc:creator>Steven Litzau</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alan, that is correct. The civil schema used by 20R1 and 20R2 is compatible between these two versions but not the previous versions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/593072?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:11:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:0c418aa1-0dd4-4450-8714-2fbff2b8282d</guid><dc:creator>Alan Dean</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Just to bring this thread to the present day. Can somebody just confirm to me that if I upgrade to ORD 2020 Release 1, any new models I create in the new version will &lt;strong&gt;NOT&lt;/strong&gt; be able to be opened by any of my colleagues who are still on ORD 2019?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/577850?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 14:56:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8cebc366-c15b-40d3-9f93-44cae4f990fd</guid><dc:creator>Vinod Balakrishnan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the detailed answer, Stephen. Its unfortunate that Bentley hasn&amp;#39;t come up with a solution for this. I&amp;#39;ll try the virtual machine route now to see if that helps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/577581?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:37:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:e02d2b32-2c82-407c-a8cc-3209528c7e2b</guid><dc:creator>Steven Litzau</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am continuing to press Bentley on this issue through a Service Request (SR). Currently, they have added additional enhancements for installation of multiple versions and backwards compatibility, but have not offered any proposed processes to address this issue. Additionally, they have not been able to confirm that anything is currently in development to address this significant defect in implementation. If that is the case, we are probably 2 or 3 releases before something is integrated into the product, so likely 6-9 months from a potential solution. This, if you are keeping track,&amp;nbsp; is about the time that Bentley has said they will discontinue licensing for the legacy products.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When this issue has been raised over the last year, there has either not been an answer provided, or responses have implied an &amp;quot;it&amp;#39;s not my job&amp;quot; mentality. (Which is accurate, those here supporting the forums are not tasked with product development, but that no apparent effort to escalate or engage other resources has been made is frustrating.) One of these responses encouraged&amp;nbsp;submitting&amp;nbsp;an SR, so I have done that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know how to get further answers regarding these concerns.&amp;nbsp;If anyone has ideas, please feel free to share them. If you want to joining me in expressing the situation through an SR, feel free to reference mine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SR #7001043131 - ORD Version Incompatibility&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The key point I am trying to get to in this is this:&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;What is the process for me as a consultant to work with different clients operating with different&amp;nbsp;Bentley civil applications or versions both now and in the future?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The following enhancements have been requested or identified:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Enhancement 1085802:[Backward Compatibility] Backward Compatibility with OpenRoads Designer Versions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Enhancement 1085804:[Compatibility] Compatibility across the Products (OpenRoads, OpenRail, OpenSite)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Enhancement 1062282:[Installation] User request ability to have multiple versions of ORD installed on same machine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Vinod, I am sorry I can not be of more help, but I have started to make this a significant effort on behalf of the civil design community and will continue to do so. I work with several large governmental agencies who are developing their ORD configurations, and the manner in which this concern is addressed could have drastic, wide ranging implications on those configurations, so having some idea of even direction would be useful as we advise them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;To not completely ignore the present issue. We have been able to be working in only two versions at a time, so my current workaround is an installation of the older version on my personal computer.&amp;nbsp;One thing that is on my plate for testing is the creation of virtual machines, either locally or potentially through some cloud services, but their is additional cost considerations for those resources that seem to make them nonviable&amp;nbsp;for small organizations like the one I work for.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Finally, to any Bentley Colleagues who may encounter this thread. If you can point us in a direction begin to answer this question, we would be grateful.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is the process for me as a consultant to work with different clients operating with different&amp;nbsp;Bentley civil applications or versions both now and in the future?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/577576?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:19:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:e5d01f57-6ef7-4fb5-aa71-a8cabd398d58</guid><dc:creator>Vinod Balakrishnan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Simon - I have the same issue that Steven Litzau has mentioned&amp;nbsp;above. We have two clients that want to use two different versions. Is it possible to have two different versions on the same computer? Any workarounds?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/577575?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:17:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:cde8b5d5-a04f-44ac-acbf-48783ed025a8</guid><dc:creator>Vinod Balakrishnan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Steven, were you able to figure this situation out? we&amp;#39;re in the same boat with two clients working on different versions..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/515592?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:41:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:a1e7ea10-8376-40b0-ace1-ed50c8c47ab1</guid><dc:creator>Steven Litzau</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Is there a proposal for those of us who work with multiple clients and do not have control over their process to upgrade or not? We are working with a number of clients in ORD, and ONE of them just updated to the new version, which leaves us in a little bit of a pinch. That client has the software on two or three machines, upgrading is a simple process. We have other clients with hundreds of users and IT requirements that new software be tested and verified before installation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is the process to install two versions of ORD on a single computer to work with multiple clients?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/515284?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 15:06:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:9e1cb890-7579-4a65-963b-827e3caa7bd5</guid><dc:creator>lilsweepr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have same question/s. I can understand between MAJOR product &lt;em&gt;upgrades&lt;/em&gt; but NOT between version &lt;em&gt;updates&lt;/em&gt;. Seems we will get &amp;quot;stuck&amp;quot; with update 6 if this is not addressed in future builds.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/515278?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 14:48:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:500bbafb-4d62-4837-83bd-0a53eddcf2ae</guid><dc:creator>Christopher Mexas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Will there be any fixes or updates to ORD Version 2018 that will maintain compatibility with Update 6? Also, can we expect further compatibility issues if we were to go with Version 2019 Upgrade 7 and a newer version comes out? Bentley Civil products were always backwards compatible, and now it looks like those days are gone... It makes it very difficult to commit to an upgrade when we cannot control what version our clients / team partners are on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m interested to know if other people are having these problems and if there is a &amp;quot;best&amp;quot; approach to mitigate compatibility issues.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Open Roads Designer Upgrade suggestions</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/515226?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 10:10:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8bb322f9-9b75-433b-a283-38a834b09a1e</guid><dc:creator>Simon Pegg</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Christopher,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Data is not backwards compatible, so you wouldn&amp;#39;t be able to take data back from update 7 to update 6. You should be able to reference it in or open it as Read Only, but not edit it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Its OOK to take data forward from an older version to a newer one, but once its been touched in the newer version, the same rule applies as above.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope this helps your decision, but if you have further questions, let us know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simon Pegg&lt;/p&gt;
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