I know this speaks more to workflow than software development, but I do not believe that the workflow will disappear just because the software develops.
I understand that the corridor model is the desired output from Openroads, and if everything is done 100% correctly, the model will account for all of the design in a project. When that is achieved, all quantities can be developed from that model.
I am concerned that not all projects can or will be done to 100% completion via modeling. If the software has no options for hand editing, or processing after hand edits are made, it is going to create more work.I work with several older engineers. They are not planning to retire any time soon. To them, the time spent creating templates and end conditions and all of the controls to fit every single condition perfectly is wasted because "we could just draw it and be done by now". I have one engineer who will not use modeling at all, and draws his proposed cross sections by hand if the job is "short enough".
Geopak calculated earthwork end areas by examining the elements of each cross sections, and using those to determine areas. While this is less precise then generating a complete corridor and comparing model volumes, it was very useful because it allowed for hand editing of cross sections when necessary without completely breaking the usefulness of the sections. What options will OpenRoads offer to engineers who choose to only utilize a portion of the software?Or, if you don't use it all (perfectly) you will just be out of luck?
Unfortunately it is about money still.I have received the same question more times when I'm training OpenRoads. How can I often hear sighs of designers it is not possible to model all details of corridor. Some designers create basic corridor only and then lot of details do in resultant cross sections. It is more faster and more effective then to create precise templates. For detailed and good paid projects we can spend more time to create precise templates but it is not possible for all types of projects.I know "all world" speaks about BIM, but realy life is sometimes different.
Perhaps one of the options might be to create a model/terrain from cross section elements. It wouldn't be as precise as something modeled down to the gnat's hair, but it would allow some use of hand-edited cross sections. And it could be adjusted with the other "surface" tools to generate a better approximation after it is created.
Does OpenRoads have anything that would generate a corridor/model/terrain from cross section elements? Should I write that up into the "Ideas"?
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MaryB said:Does OpenRoads have anything that would generate a corridor/model/terrain from cross section elements?
if it does not, that's a missing tool compared to good old InRoads and they forgot it.
since 1985: CAD/GIS : [Esri ArcMap , Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Map, InRoads ; AutoCAD , HHK Geograf , IBr DAVID, AED-SICAD ] Dev: [C, C++, Basic , Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML][direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
Then use the old tools. I still do from Geopak. Nothing says we can't run old versions. The best you get is a tin for us, but rules for them still apply so no overhangs in the tin blah blah blah.
Nothing says we can't run the old versions...until the licensing is turned off and support disappears.