[IR SS2] Generate H & V geometry from point elements?

I have received several files from our surveyors that have any number of points drawn into them. These are not COGO points. They are spot elevation points shot along the centerline of a road. They are graphic cell elements, more or less in a line, that I need to generate horizontal and (corresponding) vertical geometry from.

i have no idea how to turn this collection of spots into an alignment, let alone how to get that alignment to read and generate its own vertical geometry from the spot point elevations.

Can this be done strictly from elements? Do I need to request the FWD file (If so, what do I do with it)?

I know I can import the symbols to be COGO points, but that isn't getting me any closer to a solution.
Chain Points looks promising, but that wants me to physically click from point to point to point to point...
Create Alignment from COGO points looks promising also, but it doesn't do what I think it does.
Curve fitting looks interesting, but that appears to be more for refining AFTER I've chained the points together.

Any suggestions or guidance?
Thank you.
MaryB
Power InRoads 08.11.07.615

  • SurveyPoints.zip

    This is the sort of data they are giving me. I'm back on the projects for a while, at least. I tried Mark The Zen Dude's approach, but it did not produce a simple linear element that I could process any further. It gave me an idea or two, though, so I'm going to chase those down for a few.

    Mark Plum - your idea will work, but I have hundreds of roads that are all going to come to me like this. If I can find a way around having to chain each point individually, that's my preference.

    Thank you anyone and everyone for your continued support and advice.

    MaryB

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  • Under Import, am I looking for Surface, Surface Advanced, Geometry or Survey Data? I do not have a Style for "detail design".

    Could you explain in a little more detail so that I can understand what I am supposed to be doing? Thank you

    MaryB

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  • Import point data (using ASCII import which is a regular method)>save points but give the style set as "detail design" > then after displaying the model,the points will be joined as lines

  • I finally have a chance to get back to this project! Sorry for the delay...

    That did not generate a breakline...that was an abstract representation of a 2002 Windows screen saver...

    It fell down at Steps 3-4. I was able to pull the points in as a surface, and I was able to change from Random to Breakline, but when I visualized it, it looked as if every point was connecting to every other point. So somehow I must have had a setting wrong somewhere.

    MaryB

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  • I've been out of the office over the weekend, and will be on another project for most of today. You have both helped me, and confirmed what I thought - there is no one-click way to "bring those points in as an alignment". But the processes you have both laid out for me sound like they will work. I'll just have to get some time with this data to see how it best works.

    The hardest part will be that I have a whole county full of roads.

    Thank you for your guidance, and I will let you know if I have any problems.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
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