[IR SS2] Unwanted/duplicate elements from surface being written to cross sections?

I have a model I recently created that I need to display in my cross sections. When I look at the model in Roadway Designer, the sections look very good. I use that model to generate a surface, then I Update my cross sections to Display that surface and components. I am getting some very strange results.

For each given section, I get a single element for each of the pavement components. But I am getting dozens and dozens of the sideslope components - including what looks like end conditions that aren't even relevant to whichever section I'm looking at.

I decided to run the surface again. I emptied the surface in question, Closed the surface, deleted the DTM. the sections as seen in Roadway designer look great. I create the surface - I get no error messages. But when I go to Display it on my cross sections, again, I get many, many duplicate lines and extraneous end conditions. Almost as if I'm seeing end conditions projected through the entire project, showing up on every section. I suspect that this has something to do with the way the sections are cut - The sections themselves are cut along Line "X" (main road) but the surface that I'm showing is for "PR-Path". But I don't know quite what's going wrong, nor how to correct it.

I have included a ZIP of my project (Let me know if I have forgotten anything).

Unfortunately, I am not authorized to file a Service Request, and the CAD manager is on vacation.

MAB Troubleshooting.zip

Thank you.
MaryB
Power InRoads 08.07.11.615

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  • The variable manager setting, when it works, is great. However, I have worked on projects where it did not work. Actually, it was more like, it changed one problem into another problem because with it, there were things that displayed differently but incorrectly while with it off some of these displayed badly, if at all.

    It has been more than a few years since I worked in Ss2 on that project and had forgotten the whole thing, until I read the latest responses in this thread.

    Since working with Ss4 and cutting sections from a 3D dgn, I really never looked back - even with the issue of Ss4 not having the ability to refresh cross sections. In fact, I even considered testing using the Ss4 cross sectioning tool with an Ss2 project. One thing I learned on that earlier Ss2 project, was that getting clean cross sections when using secondary alignments was problematic, if you also were trying to show other components from other DTM/Corridors. And one way to see why would be to compare components of any corridor using secondary alignments that are drawn as the corridor processes to once drawn after the fact using the View Components tool. It was these differences that also made some component elevations to not reflect the design properly, that had me considering using the 3D components drawn during corridor creation with the Ss4 cross section tools.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration
    Maryland DOT - State Highway Administration User Communities Page

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
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  • The variable manager setting, when it works, is great. However, I have worked on projects where it did not work. Actually, it was more like, it changed one problem into another problem because with it, there were things that displayed differently but incorrectly while with it off some of these displayed badly, if at all.

    It has been more than a few years since I worked in Ss2 on that project and had forgotten the whole thing, until I read the latest responses in this thread.

    Since working with Ss4 and cutting sections from a 3D dgn, I really never looked back - even with the issue of Ss4 not having the ability to refresh cross sections. In fact, I even considered testing using the Ss4 cross sectioning tool with an Ss2 project. One thing I learned on that earlier Ss2 project, was that getting clean cross sections when using secondary alignments was problematic, if you also were trying to show other components from other DTM/Corridors. And one way to see why would be to compare components of any corridor using secondary alignments that are drawn as the corridor processes to once drawn after the fact using the View Components tool. It was these differences that also made some component elevations to not reflect the design properly, that had me considering using the 3D components drawn during corridor creation with the Ss4 cross section tools.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration
    Maryland DOT - State Highway Administration User Communities Page

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
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