A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Mark Marnell — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 13:00:36 GMT

That depends on the configuration - from your earlier post, it looks like you used 'Bentley-Civil-Imperial' project, so it reads them from C:\ProgramData\Bentley\PowerInRoads V8i (SELECTseries 4)\WorkSpace\Projects\Examples\Bentley-Civil-Imperial\dgnlib\

This is a separate topic to seed files, and should be in a different thread.

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

frank lei — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:36:07 GMT

Mark,

Currently, the folder: ...\workspace\standards\dgnlib\ is empty.

Where does the DGN file read the dnglib files please?

Thank you.

Frank

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Mark Marnell — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:46:04 GMT

Frank - you do not seem to understand the idea of Feature Definitions [FD]. They are in the DGNLIB - a library, not a seed file. Why are you trying to make a FD 3D DGNLIB - it makes no sense.

When you create a new file File > New, you can pick a 2D seed file or a 3D seed file in the dialog, and your file is 2D or 3D. The seed files are in a 'seed' folder - check your folder structure.

The FD will be read from the DGNLIB as needed - they have nothing to do with 2D/3D..

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

frank lei — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:36:49 GMT

Mark,

Thank you for the response.

I use POWER INROADS SS4 currently.

I opened the following 2D file:

C:\ProgramData\Bentley\PowerInRoads V8i (SELECTseries
4)\WorkSpace\Projects\Examples\Bentley-Civil-Imperial\dgnlib\
Feature_Definitions_Imperial.dgnlib,

I used the 2 ways to create a 3D file below:

1. file>export>3D...;

2. file>models>create a new model>choose: type: design, 3D, click OK.

When I checked the 3D file I got, none of them has the same feature definitions which the 2D file (Feature_Definitions_Imperial.dgnlib) has.

May I ask for the proper way please?

Thank you.

Frank

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Mark Marnell — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 06:28:25 GMT

Frank - I do not understand your comment - if you create a 3D file, you will still have the feature definitions in the workspace library, so they will still be available. What software are you using?

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

frank lei — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:52:33 GMT

In this way to create 3D files, I would lost the feature definitions. How to keep the all feature definitions in 3D files please?

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Mark Marnell — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 08:17:23 GMT

The 'Project' changes the configuration so that it looks at particular folders for things such as seed files, level libraries, cells, feature definition libraries etc. The 'Untitles' project does not have anything defined - whereas the 'Metric' project has everything set up for a metric project.

A quick way to see the difference is to open a file with 'Untitled' as the project, and check what levels are available in Level Manager. Open the same file with 'Bentley-Metric' and do the same - you will see a big difference. Note - the DGN itself has not changed, but the libraries that you are pointing to have.

NOTE: as this is a completely different topic to the original 'seed file' subject, you should really create a new thread for it.

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

VAIBHAV GAURKAR — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 05:49:16 GMT

Dear Amita,

please tell me the difference that will be made by the microstation setting change as shown in attached images.

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

MaryB — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:35:09 GMT

In V8i, on the File menu, there is an option to export a file to 3D. I have used this in the past to generate 3D seed files when only provided with 2D. Is that available to you in OpenRoads?

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Mark Marnell — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 08:49:19 GMT

When you create a new plan in MX, you should always get a 3D file. Where are you getting the seed files from?

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Amita Shinde — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 04:52:39 GMT

Vaibhav, a 2D seed/file has 2 dimensions, that means it considers only the X,Y. Where as any terrain data like Google Earth or point clouds has 3D data, that it X,Y,Z or Lat, long, elevation. So in order to import such data you need a 3D file / model. You can try to create a new model within this file, and select 3D and work in this model to import the terrain data. Hope this helps.

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

VAIBHAV GAURKAR — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 04:39:11 GMT

Actually my current project seed file is 2D. So whenever I try to 1) capture google earth image & 2) import point cloud data , the work doesnot get done. If there is any method to capture google earth image in model with 2D seed, that will also hold good.

RE: A project has seed file of 2D of default design model, default sheet model & DPF sheet model. How to convert all these 2D seed to 3D in MX Road SS4 V8i?

Amita Shinde — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 04:32:01 GMT

Hi Vaibhav,

Can you please elaborate what you are trying to achieve here.