Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

When ORD 2019 Release 1 came out we had issues getting the Civil Cells that were delivered with the software to work properly.  To avoid the pitfalls associated with those Civil Cells we created our own.  After a lot of study and trial and error I developed several stable cells that worked very well with our work flows.

We recently upgraded to Version 10.07.01.32 with the hopes that some of the bugs noted in previous versions had been addressed.  Now the Civil Cells that I previously developed no longer work properly.  It seems to have something to do with projecting profiles from one element to another.  In previous versions of ORD if two geometry lines were at 90 degrees to one another you could project a profile at say 1.5% from one to the other and it would work.  Now it seems like there is about a 50/50 chance that it will work.  I also have a situation in one of the cells that I created where the angle between the lines is about 60 degrees and I can't get a profile to project.  The lines even share a common end point.

I wanted to make sure what I was observing only happened in the latest release and not in the previous one so I went to a computer that had not yet been upgraded to the latest version.  I tested the cell by dragging the control lines around trying to "break" the cell.  I couldn't do it.  Now if I open the cell in the most current version and drag the control lines around the cell graphics immediately fail.

Has anyone else noticed that civil cells are not working properly in the latest version?  Has anyone had problems specifically with projecting profiles from one element to another?

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  • Marc,
     
    I’ve uploaded the custom Civil Cell (Urban DW No SW Taper Only.dgn) to the link provided.  My workflow is pretty straight forward.
     
    ORD Version 10.07.00.56
    1. Open Civil Cell
    2. Grab edit handle of driveway centerline
    3. Drag and click new location
    4. Check for problems with graphics update in 3D view (none noted)
     
    ORD Version 10.07.01.32
    1. Open Civil Cell
    2. Grab edit handle of driveway centerline
    3. Drag and click new location
    4. Check for problems with graphics update in 3D view.  Site_Lawn geometry lines do not update correctly and graphics don’t update.  This appears to have something to do with the profile projected from the edge of pavement to the Site_Lawn geometry line.  I experimented with the geometry I created and it looks like when the driveway centerline control line is adjusted the profile on the Site_Lawn geometry line changes to a dashed red line and the cell fails.
     
    Thanks,
     
     
    Christopher M. Buerck, P.E.
    Bowen Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
    2121 Megan Drive
    Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
    Phone 573-339-5900
    Fax 573-339-1391
     
  • Thank you for the file.

    I've been trying to see a difference when moving the line 'DW_CL' but it seems to react in the same way in both 2019R & R2.

    Can you send me some screenshots of what I should see? Ideally with the dgn file for both case. The link above is still available for uploads.

    Sorry about that.

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