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Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

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When ORD 2019 Release 1 came out we had issues getting the Civil Cells that were delivered with the software to work properly.  To avoid the pitfalls associated with those Civil Cells we created our own.  After a lot of study and trial and error I developed several stable cells that worked very well with our work flows.

We recently upgraded to Version 10.07.01.32 with the hopes that some of the bugs noted in previous versions had been addressed.  Now the Civil Cells that I previously developed no longer work properly.  It seems to have something to do with projecting profiles from one element to another.  In previous versions of ORD if two geometry lines were at 90 degrees to one another you could project a profile at say 1.5% from one to the other and it would work.  Now it seems like there is about a 50/50 chance that it will work.  I also have a situation in one of the cells that I created where the angle between the lines is about 60 degrees and I can't get a profile to project.  The lines even share a common end point.

I wanted to make sure what I was observing only happened in the latest release and not in the previous one so I went to a computer that had not yet been upgraded to the latest version.  I tested the cell by dragging the control lines around trying to "break" the cell.  I couldn't do it.  Now if I open the cell in the most current version and drag the control lines around the cell graphics immediately fail.

Has anyone else noticed that civil cells are not working properly in the latest version?  Has anyone had problems specifically with projecting profiles from one element to another?

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    Marc,
     
    I have uploaded files for both the computer with ORD 2019 R1 and the computer with ORD 2019 R2.  There are three files for each set.
     
    Files 01 – 03 are for 2019 R1 and include:
    1. DGN file used to create Civil Cell
    2. Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
    3. Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics still intact in 3D view.
     
    Files 04 – 06 are for 2019 R2 and include:
    1. DGN file used to create Civil Cell
    2. Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
    3. Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics for grass shoulders incorrectly represented.  Also, View 4 shows the profile of Geometry element Stln10 in red and dashed as if it is undefined.
     
    It appears as if the rules established for the profile along element Stln10 are lost when the DW_CL is adjusted.
     
    The computer on which the ORD 2019 R2 version was installed was upgraded from R1.  Is it possible that this has something to do with upgrading and not doing a fresh install?
     
     
    Christopher M. Buerck, P.E.
    Bowen Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
    2121 Megan Drive
    Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
    Phone 573-339-5900
    Fax 573-339-1391
     
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    Marc,
     
    I have uploaded files for both the computer with ORD 2019 R1 and the computer with ORD 2019 R2.  There are three files for each set.
     
    Files 01 – 03 are for 2019 R1 and include:
    1. DGN file used to create Civil Cell
    2. Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
    3. Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics still intact in 3D view.
     
    Files 04 – 06 are for 2019 R2 and include:
    1. DGN file used to create Civil Cell
    2. Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
    3. Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics for grass shoulders incorrectly represented.  Also, View 4 shows the profile of Geometry element Stln10 in red and dashed as if it is undefined.
     
    It appears as if the rules established for the profile along element Stln10 are lost when the DW_CL is adjusted.
     
    The computer on which the ORD 2019 R2 version was installed was upgraded from R1.  Is it possible that this has something to do with upgrading and not doing a fresh install?
     
     
    Christopher M. Buerck, P.E.
    Bowen Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
    2121 Megan Drive
    Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
    Phone 573-339-5900
    Fax 573-339-1391
     
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