Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Marc Blancher — Thu, 15 Aug 2019 08:53:36 GMT

Sorry for the delay, this seems to be this defect: Defect 1042749:[Geometry] project slope from element - profile isn't created and it should be fixed in the next release.

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Mark Shamoun — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 11:00:03 GMT

done - I have even tried rebuilding it in R2 with no change unfortunately.

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Marc Blancher — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:56:07 GMT

Hi Mark, if you want to share your cells I'll be glad to investigate it too. You can use the same link to upload yours:

https://bentley.sharefile.com/r-r896c545ed414e47a

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Mark Shamoun — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:53:02 GMT

That's funny, we just started experiencing the same thing using Civil Cells used 100's of times in R1 and older releases.

It doesn't happen everytime though - we can't put our finger on whats makes it happen...

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Marc Blancher — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:28:50 GMT

Hi Christopher, thank you for the detailed workflow.

Unfortunately I was unable to reproduce the issue. It works fine with 2019R2 on my end.

Have you tried with no workset?

We can try to identify the cause of this problem

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

engcgmo2010 — Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:20:47 GMT

Marc,

I have uploaded files for both the computer with ORD 2019 R1 and the computer with ORD 2019 R2. There are three files for each set.

Files 01 – 03 are for 2019 R1 and include:

DGN file used to create Civil Cell
Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics still intact in 3D view.

Files 04 – 06 are for 2019 R2 and include:

DGN file used to create Civil Cell
Screen shot with three views: View 1 - Geometry without modification, View 2 – 3D view of curb, driveway pavement and grass shoulders, View 4 – Profile of Geometry element Stln10.
Screen shot with same three views as above after adjusting DW_CL showing graphics for grass shoulders incorrectly represented. Also, View 4 shows the profile of Geometry element Stln10 in red and dashed as if it is undefined.

It appears as if the rules established for the profile along element Stln10 are lost when the DW_CL is adjusted.

The computer on which the ORD 2019 R2 version was installed was upgraded from R1. Is it possible that this has something to do with upgrading and not doing a fresh install?

Christopher M. Buerck, P.E.
Bowen Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
2121 Megan Drive
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
Phone 573-339-5900
Fax 573-339-1391

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Marc Blancher — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:29:54 GMT

Thank you for the file.

I've been trying to see a difference when moving the line 'DW_CL' but it seems to react in the same way in both 2019R & R2.

Can you send me some screenshots of what I should see? Ideally with the dgn file for both case. The link above is still available for uploads.

Sorry about that.

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

engcgmo2010 — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:24:24 GMT

Marc,

I’ve uploaded the custom Civil Cell (Urban DW No SW Taper Only.dgn) to the link provided. My workflow is pretty straight forward.

ORD Version 10.07.00.56

Open Civil Cell
Grab edit handle of driveway centerline
Drag and click new location
Check for problems with graphics update in 3D view (none noted)

ORD Version 10.07.01.32

Open Civil Cell
Grab edit handle of driveway centerline
Drag and click new location
Check for problems with graphics update in 3D view. Site_Lawn geometry lines do not update correctly and graphics don’t update. This appears to have something to do with the profile projected from the edge of pavement to the Site_Lawn geometry line. I experimented with the geometry I created and it looks like when the driveway centerline control line is adjusted the profile on the Site_Lawn geometry line changes to a dashed red line and the cell fails.

Thanks,

Christopher M. Buerck, P.E.
Bowen Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
2121 Megan Drive
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
Phone 573-339-5900
Fax 573-339-1391

RE: Openroads Designer 2019 Release 2 - Civil Cell Problems

Marc Blancher — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:39:49 GMT

Can you share your dataset? I will try to reproduce the issue.

You can upload your files here: https://bentley.sharefile.com/r-r896c545ed414e47a

Can you also describe the workflow leading to the error?