Why are my profile links breaking?

Disclaimer: I'm using OpenRail but posted in that group and it was suggested I post in here.

I've had quite a few problems with profiles "breaking" or disappearing from profile views and sheet views. We have to utilize sheets in individual files per client wishes. Seemingly randomly, the links for the profile will break and our vertical alignment disappears from the profile view and the sheet view. The reference tab shows a broken reference to the "attached long section". Annotation remains, but the linework is gone.

It doesn't seem to be correlated with any profile edits or horizontal alignment edits. We do change the level from the feature definition default (specific level for each track, but just one feature definition for all 4).

I have no idea what is causing it, and therefore it's hard to prevent it from happening. Any ideas?

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  • Just to bring this thread back up, has this issue been resolved. I'm using ORD Release 1 and have created some profiles and then attached them to my drawing borders ready to issue. But the problem is, every time I go into my drawing sheet view the proposed vertical and the existing ground disappear, and similar to whats been said before, the reference to the profile is broken and red. I first thought it was a nested depth issue because if I change my nest depth to 99 the lines reappear but sadly disappear again when I reopen the drawing later. Was this a defect? Has it been resolved in R2? Any updates to this issue would be very helpful.

  • I found that this issue no longer occurred in 2020 R2, but other profile issues remained. Some more issues with profiles were fixed in 2020 R3.
    The problem is that geometry created in a dgn created in an older version of ORD won't necessarily work by simply opening it up or referencing it in to a dgn created in a newer release. This is at least my experience - it's better to create the geometry from scratch in a new dgn when you update to a newer version of ORD.

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  • I found that this issue no longer occurred in 2020 R2, but other profile issues remained. Some more issues with profiles were fixed in 2020 R3.
    The problem is that geometry created in a dgn created in an older version of ORD won't necessarily work by simply opening it up or referencing it in to a dgn created in a newer release. This is at least my experience - it's better to create the geometry from scratch in a new dgn when you update to a newer version of ORD.

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  • Thanks for the response. So it's a bug and can only be fixed by upgrading to R2?

    Which is a problem, as this will only work if all the design team upgrade from R1 to R2, because I presume models are not backwards compatible.

    So if upgrading isn't a viable solution how do I get around this issue, because at the moment every time I open my drawing I see no vertical or existing ground profile, they don't show up in pdf's and can't be seen by the client. Another PR disaster by Bentley. Bug after bug, with no fix other than to upgrade.

  • As far as I know, that is the only permanent fix.

    When my team encountered this bug in 2020 R1 (I almost think it was also there in 2019 R4 as well), it resulted in us recreating profile drawings from scratch several times just so that we could PDF. Opening the dgn a few days later would result in references and annotations disappearing. It was not fun, but we discovered that immediately hitting ctrl+z after opening the profile dgns and then hitting save and save settings rescued the dgns for long enough to print to PDF. If we didn't immediately undo after opening a dgn, there was no saving it and we'd have to start over.

  • As I understand it, 2020 R1 and 2020 R2 use the same data schema. R3 was yet another schema, but R1 & R2 are identical as far as I know. You should be able to move between those two without redoing your projects.

    If this is a problem for you, it would be a problem for everyone else on the design team as well. You might as well update them all.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • Thanks for the contribution, I'm getting R2 installed so we'll see how I get on from there.

    Alan