Hello there,
Please excuse me if something below may sound like a rant, it is.
I am a long time user of MX looking to switch to ORD. The biggest hurdle for me is creating a Configuration from scratch. I have started, done some of it, but the "intelligence" of the software relies on the feature definitions and the "Configuration" itself. Without a proper Configuration this software is as useful as microstation in a sea of AutoCAD and C3D. Not all the relations between the feature definitions, annotations, feature symbologies, element templates, item types, etc are obvious, nor very well documented, as a bonus they change quite often.
Is there something like an UK Configuration for ORD?
I mean something more polished than last year, compliant with IAN184/16 and Uniclass 2015, the last one I had access to was "ordd10050030en_gb.msi". That was half baked and Uniclass in all it's glory was dumped in 1000s of levels and element templates.
I am looking at something more like the AU/NZ Configuration. I do understand that HE does not want to involve themselves in such a matter (not the best policy if you want everything BIM compliant), but when people start getting creative, like they did with MX, you end up having everyone "migrated" to C3D.
And if such thing exists, can it be distributed via zip file rather than msi? When refreshing it, requests admin privileges and we must answer too many questions, often to people who have no idea of what we're talking about, half a world apart, bored to death by anything that's not Windows, Office, pdf or sometimes PW, waste of time and energy.
Can Bentley, please, move the Configurations/Country Kits in an area where we can download them without Select? Like in the Communities or a section of the Learn server? We're not downloading software that can cause licensing issues, we're downloading content.
Some of us are forced to switch to C3D and struggle to show a viable alternative, can Bentley help us in our endeavour?
Thank you in advance for help and understanding.
Regards,
Val.
I'll second that. Whilst the Civil 3D UKIE kit isn't perfect, it's a great starting point, and defiantly allows a user to work to UK standards straight out of the box with all the layers, styles and assemblies set up. Not quite the case for ORD.
Hi Guys
I'm interested to know where the UK Dataset is deficient ? Is it purely on the Feature Definitions and Level Naming conventions ?
Please feel free to contact me offline. simon.pegg@bentley.com
I'd be keen to work with you on getting the UK Dataset up to the requirements that you can use quickly.
Simon Pegg
Bentley Technical Support
Hello Simon,
Thank you for responding, looks like it works better with the Communities.
In my post I was asking if the Dataset(s) or Configuration(s) can be moved to a server where we can download it without Select subscription. We are on company Learn server and we can access parts of Select, but for some of us the Downloads section is out of reach. We are downloading content, not software that can trigger licensing issues on part of our companies. It's the same as downloading material for practice.
That's a good start. First let's have a look at what you have already produced.
The second is to have it distributed in a zip file, or both msi installer and zip to suit all tastes. In some instances I need to go to IT to uninstall something, it happened before with msi Datasets. IT asks too many questions and is half world apart sometimes. I am comfortable with editing config files, and in most cases is just overwriting or adding a line to point to a different location.
We are professionals and we distinguish between standard work and development, so I guess that the risk of breaking something is minimal.
Once we go through what is in the current UK Dataset we can expand from there.
Thank you once more for your support.