[ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:01:40 GMT

Mark,

The design file which stores SE definition was created a few ORD releases ago, are you saying we're suppose to recreate it from scratch? I'm running 2020R2 and still having this problem. Can this be addressed? Unless Bentley can provide resources to recreate the model from scratch.

Regards,
Krzysztof

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 08:00:41 GMT

Sorry, update, I don't get the diagram at all - brand new file, new alignment and new superelevation...

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:49:42 GMT

Hi Marc,

FYI, I just annotated the profile in the latest ORD and still getting the same problem with superelevation diagram.... Could you please investigate?

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Mark Shamoun — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 01:09:51 GMT

So an update/upgrade issue of superelevation created in a previous release?

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Marc Blancher — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:37:10 GMT

I copy what I told you by email to share with other users:

If I try with a dgn file created with a previous version of ORD, I get the same issue but with a brand new file the result seems better, see screenshots below, still it doesn’t place all the labels at the right place but it seems to draw a more reliable diagram.

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:20:10 GMT

I will email it to you.

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Marc Blancher — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:56:08 GMT

If I can test with an example that I'm sure didn't work with 2019R2 we eliminate any other factors.

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:47:20 GMT

Hi,

Wouldn't it be sensible to create one on your own using seed from the latest version?

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Marc Blancher — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:44:25 GMT

Hi,

Can someone provide me a dataset I can test with the next version?

You can use this link to upload your files: https://bentley.sharefile.com/r-r9ec9de04bf44817b

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Adam Wieczorek — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 17:11:02 GMT

I am not from Bentley, but still took a look. Looks sth is wrong with super-elevation diagrams on profiles. I have similar results to yours.

Hopefully 2019 R3 is postponed as they are making product usable finally ;)

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 14:58:17 GMT

Anyone from Bentley can look at this and confirm it's a bug and if so, log a defect PLEASE?

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:05:13 GMT

Unfortunately no.

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Mark Shamoun — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 09:03:48 GMT

I originally meant the next point after this one, but removing this one may resolve it? Still not sure why its an issue to begin with though.

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Krzysztof Burdziel — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 08:52:24 GMT

Thanks Mark for the reply. I'm not sure what do you mean by removing the level point at 0%?

RE: [ORD 2019 R2] superelevation diagram not shown correctly on the drawing

Mark Shamoun — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 08:04:53 GMT

ORDs Super diagrams have been our biggest issue for Profile annotation. We've been requesting an option for a superelelevation diagram based on the crossfall measurement to a linear element just as we had in MX so we could see the "real" superelevation and take into account localised changes at intersections and extended crossfall at highway ramps, etc.

I'm pretty sure simplifying the process would be easier to implement.

Maybe try removing the level point at 0% to see if it resolves it?