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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>How do I keep my LandXML file edits from Trimble Business Center</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/192822/how-do-i-keep-my-landxml-file-edits-from-trimble-business-center</link><description>Hello All, 
 I am using InRoads (SS2), MS V8i SS3 and Trimble Business Center v5.1. I use TBC for editing surfaces and use the export function for creating a LandXML file. I use the points and breaklines option, and import it into InRoads. The edits and</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: How do I keep my LandXML file edits from Trimble Business Center</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/639731?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:01:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2e918b36-33a3-4ed3-83e5-7693e5cd2551</guid><dc:creator>Katie Cook</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Victor,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While searching for my own answers to a related question, I came across this and thought it might help you. (Refer to link for full article.)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:882.717px;"&gt;To export intelligence with the triangulated surface, you must include the features which have names and styles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:907.4px;top:882.717px;"&gt;If you &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:905.117px;"&gt;take the time to delete triangles from your DTM or change a triangle edge, those changes will show up in the &amp;lt;Faces&amp;gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:927.517px;"&gt;block in the LandXML file. If the receiving software cannot process &amp;lt;Faces&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:612.117px;top:927.517px;"&gt;&amp;gt; the triangle edges will not be used &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:885.8px;top:927.517px;"&gt;and the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:949.917px;"&gt;triangulated surface &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:214.233px;top:949.917px;"&gt;after import &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:309.283px;top:949.917px;"&gt;will not exactly match the surface that you exported. Some applications will use the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:972.367px;"&gt;&amp;lt;Faces&amp;gt; information, like Civil 3D or Trimble Business Center, but not all civil design applications use the triangle edge &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:994.767px;"&gt;info&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:89.2px;top:994.767px;"&gt;rmation, and InRoads V8i certainly does not. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1039.37px;"&gt;InRoads V8i will export &amp;lt;Faces&amp;gt; data, but will not import triangle edge information and must triangulate an imported &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1061.77px;"&gt;surface &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:118.84px;top:1061.77px;"&gt;itself. Differences in the maximum triangle length and deleted or changed triangles &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:745.167px;top:1061.77px;"&gt;will cause the surface &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:909.4px;top:1061.77px;"&gt;that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1084.17px;"&gt;InRoads V8i creates &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:210.433px;top:1084.17px;"&gt;to be triangulated differently&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:426.683px;top:1084.17px;"&gt;. That means that if you transfer surface data in LandXML format to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1106.57px;"&gt;someone using InRoads V8i, the surface that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:395.683px;top:1106.57px;"&gt;is received may not exactly match the surface you export. One me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:892.2px;top:1106.57px;"&gt;thod of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1128.97px;"&gt;forcing identical triangulation by software that does not process &amp;lt;Faces&amp;gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:605.317px;top:1128.97px;"&gt;data &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:642.917px;top:1128.97px;"&gt;is to import the triangle edges into your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1151.36px;"&gt;surface as breaklines prior to exporting to LandXML. After importing &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:576.317px;top:1151.36px;"&gt;the LandXML file&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:701.367px;top:1151.36px;"&gt;, the triangulation must be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:60px;top:1173.76px;"&gt;performed wit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:18.4px;left:168.033px;top:1173.76px;"&gt;hout limiting the triangle length.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;file:///C:/Users/h7etdkrc/AppData/Local/Temp/1/Surface_Export_Import_Using_LandXML.pdf&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Katie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How do I keep my LandXML file edits from Trimble Business Center</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/570576?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:36:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:0466c68b-b55c-4cdc-aee7-94dd660e1e47</guid><dc:creator>Ray Thwaits</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Whether you import your LandXML file into an InRoads surface or a MicroStation terrain model (not there&amp;#39;s any value to that with SS2), it will be re-triangulated. It doesn&amp;#39;t matter if the LandXML file includes points and lines or points and faces or both, it will be re-triangulated based on the points and lines in the first and third cases, and on points in the second case; i.e., it will ignore the faces.&amp;nbsp; When based on points and lines the differences are usually insignificant.&amp;nbsp; Obviously, you&amp;#39;re finding some significant differences in your surfaces.&amp;nbsp; I know of only way two ways&amp;nbsp;to force identical triangulation:&amp;nbsp;export triangle edges as breaklines or import the triangles from graphics in a dgn or dwg file.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not clear what you mean by your edits not matching.&amp;nbsp; If edits to points or breaklines aren&amp;#39;t carried over from TBC, I would suspect&amp;nbsp;that TBC isn&amp;#39;t correctly exporting your final surface.&amp;nbsp; Edits in TBC such as flipping triangle edges or deleting edge triangles will only be exported to a LandXML file if the faces are exported.&amp;nbsp; Since InRoads ignores the face definitions, those edits will not be reflected in the InRoads surface.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>