Using OpenRoads Designer for Production

OpenRoads Designer CONNECT Edition was announced by Bentley in November 2016. I'm trying to get a sense of how mature the product is for production use. I've been doing extensive research and will be moving into more rigorous testing to assess if the software can be used on full scale projects as the main design platform.

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  • The 3D modeling tools are fairly solid and stable ... on the other hand plan production tools seem "half-baked" ... my major heart burn is the cross-section "deliverables" (Oh-Boy!).

    ORD creates a drawing model for EVERY station where you slice a cross section! This is how ORD keeps the connection between your 3D model and cross sections presented in the sheets LIVE.

    You could easily end up with hundreds of cross section models in your drawing (for large projects) and the processing can take hours. This has made managing ORD cross section sheets so tedious that we had no other choice but revert to revert to SS4 or other legacy formats just for the plan production ... especially cross sections, which defeats the purpose of OpenRoads Technology!

  • I've had discussions with key people in our firm who adamantly expect to be able to edit cross section graphics. They explained to me that in complex urban projects they need to make small adjustments to cross section elements and that it would be tedious and time consuming to make these tweaks using the corridor template. 

  • In this case, why not to use a 'Clip Mask' with the reference with the option 'Merge Mask Contents' in the drawing or sheet model?

    I've just tried it and it create a mask of the area you want to edit and drop the reference in the fence into editable elements that I can manipulate / delete / etc.

  • How about having a way to "push" edits from cross sections back to the corridor model?

    MaryB

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  • The reference clip mask is probably the optimal solution at the moment. It maintains the live connection between the cross section and 3D model and allows for editing of selected areas. Several masked areas can be created. When running Annotate Model the edited areas will be annotated with reference to the original geometry so some manual annotation will be required. One obvious advantage is that masked/edited areas are clearly marked and can be located later even if the model changes. Also the original model geometry remains available and is only masked out of the drawing so it's easy to delete edits and revert.

    A definite enhancement to the cross section creation process is to allow the user to place more than one cross section per drawing model. This would speed up editing of multiple cross sections. We recently designed a 20 kilometer road segment. At the standard cross section interval of 20 meters this generated 1000 cross sections.

  • The location of cross section elements in the drawing model enables offset/elevation values to be extracted using XYZ Text. Y is elevation and X is offset. Quite handy when manually annotating edits.

  • Good stuff Benzi,

    Maybe the enhancement may be having the Cross Section annotation group leaders/cells dynamically update offset / elevation values if picked up and moved to a different location to allow for manual edits - and can be "reset" by re-annotating?

    Regards,

    Mark


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