ORD How to permanently disable automatic annotation in sheet models?

Title says it all.

  • They need to add something like the Dragged State that Civil 3D supposts for its annotation, where if you drag an annotation away from its default location, it retains that offset even if the underlying element is modified. And if one selects a Dragged State annotation, it has a reset option that can be used to reset the annotation to its default location. It also supports an alternate display for Dragged State, if you define one. I believe you can effectively turn off a particular annotation within an annotation group, too.  


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • Or just a big red button that says "disable automatic annotation updates". It could go in the model properties, perhaps.

    In my case, we have several vertical curves on one sheet. We need to be able to move, or delete parts of this annotation and have it not come back. An example for deleting is using a manual label with leader to callout objects that run off the edge of the sheet, or overlap some other part of the drawing. Or perhaps the vertical lines or arrows used to show VPI and length information run off the page or are overlapping some other area of the drawing. While this affects the specific curve that is being manually edited, we still need the annotation for the other curves, so removing it form the annotation group is not viable.

    We need to be able to delete and or manually edit these items without them coming back the next time the drawing is opened. if this ability was not put in this software then it was a severe oversight on Bentley's part.

    As it currently stands, anytime we want to print our plan sheets, these items have to be "re-edited", and the sheets printed before leaving the file. This is a huge waste of time.

  • I am currently using 2020R3 and this issue seems to remain. If I annotate the default model the changes to the annotation remain, but if I leave the linework un-annotated and annotate in a drawing model (which I believe IS the recommended manner), then the linework which is referenced to the drawing model will re-annotate. Like others have already stated, this is a HUGE waste of time to modify text which has already been modified for correct appearance. Profiles are the biggest issue because one can ONLY generate alignment text within the drawing model(s)

    Now, I do understand that any linework changes which take place should be re-annotated (as a "refresh), but if I have not made any changes to my linework, the program should NOT create a "refresh". So annoying and it MUST be fixed.

    Mark

    Mark Anthony Plum
    Chief Technology Officer

    1601 N.W. Expressway, Suite 400
    Oklahoma City, OK  73118
      
  • Chuck:

    From what I can tell, one cannot turn off an annotation in ORD; such can only be deleted as to not appear. Your comments as regards C3D are valuable. I only hope that the Bentley coders are paying attention to this thread/ subject matter. The program designs nicely, but the lack of attention to real-world production issues as regards client demands is startling to me.

    Mark

    Mark Anthony Plum
    Chief Technology Officer

    1601 N.W. Expressway, Suite 400
    Oklahoma City, OK  73118
      
  • Hi

    I had the same problem. Then I found these two variables that I set as shown below:

    BB_AUTOANNOTATION_ONCREATE = 0
    BB_AUTOANNOTATION = MANUAL

    Then it stopped