Is there a way to REFERENCE the Title block into the drawing Sheet Definition?

Hello there.

I am setting up drawings and have created the various sheets I will need in 3 Sheet Definition DGNLibs (plan, profile, Cross Section).

It would be neat if, when changing project, I only had to edit the title block once and not in every single sheet.

To avoid copying the entire title block into every sheets as graphics, I have tried in various ways to reference it into the Sheet Definition as well as the Sheet Seed, but it will not show on the drawings when using the Named Boundary method to create Civil drawings.

Am I missing something? Can someone help?

  • That would be nice to know! Referenced title blocks save us a lot of time - with some of our clients, it's (unfortunately) not unusual to have projects split apart, combined, or assigned different project numbers over the project lifecycle. Having as much of that information contained in ONE file is much more expedient than having to edit it in every sheet.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • This is possible.  There is a weird step you need to do though.

    Once you have created your sheets in the DGNLIB simply attach the border file as a reference.  But note, when you attach this border it gets attached with one of Microstation's section markers.  You have to delete this section marker associated with the reference file.  It will ask you if you want to detach the reference file, just select no.

    Note, if you are using ProjectWise, a new user will need to copy out the title block first.  The sheet creation process will not trigger PW to do this and the title block would not be found.  You just need to manually copy it out first.

    Answer Verified By: Marianne Rask 

  • Marianna:

    Why not set up your sheets with fields and use properties within the dgnws file to assign differing information on a Workset (project) by Workset basis? Am I misunderstanding your issue?

    Mark

    Mark Anthony Plum
    Chief Technology Officer
    1601 N.W. Expressway, Suite 400
    Oklahoma City, OK  73118
     
  • I can answer for my shop - we may have to update to the new workflow piecemeal. I've seen some of the training on properties and items, and it looks very good, but some aspect of the upgrade may have to be rolled out in stages. There is a lot that can be automated, but there is a lot of setup to get that automation correct, and a lot of education to get everyone in the office into the right workflow. In an ideal world, we just bite the bullet and do everything at once, but I suspect that we are going to have to prioritize what gets accomplished first, and I see automated title blocks getting pushed back a bit while we learn how to design a road.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • Wow! Thanks, Marc. This was a weird step, but it worked.

    This is my workflow for others to follow:

    Workflow:
    1. Open the Sheet Definition.dgnlib
    2. Create a new Model for the title block
        (This title block may contain smart texts that update automatically, but that is another story.)
    3. Open the one of the Sheet Models.
    4. Attach the dgnlib itself as a reference, selecting the title block Model and scale 1:1.
    5. Select the Section Marker, and delete it
    6. Answer "No" to deleting the reference.
    7. Do this for all Sheet Models in the dgnlib.

    The title block will now appear on the drawings when creating them via Named Boundary.

    To change something in all plan drawings, simply change it in the title block Model alone.