ORD Profile Questions

My thought on how to generate a drawing of the whole profile is to create a "roll plot" type enormous sheet definition that would just show the entire thing.
There isn't a profile drawing anymore, just like there aren't cross section drawings any more. They exist as "the model", and only get written to CAD when generating sheets.

Sheets are generated from Named Boundaries, and yes, you will be able to place these and review them before creating your actual sheets. 

As I understand it, the profile view will be able to slice/project anything that is attached to the 3D model in the drawing you are creating the sheets in.
I believe that if this information is attached in 3D model of the corridor drawing, it can also be seen in the dynamic profile.

But that may not all be true, and it may not be all that easy, depending how much you need to show that ISN'T directly related to your baseline. I'll have to defer to others about the utilities, but you may be able to add the profile to the utility feature.

They have removed a LOT of control from the profile, compared to GPK. There IS no profile drawing anymore, and you can no longer define it "separate" from the horizontal geometry. For better or worse (some of both in my book) your vertical geometry IS saved into your horizontal geometry, or projected from terrains and maybe features.

My past practice (PGKP SS2/10) was to draw profiles of existing utilities such as storm and sanitary sewers "manually" in a project-length profile.  Is this still the best way to show various utilities in profile, or should I be modeling them?  If they are not "sliced" by the alignment will they show up in a profile model?

Thank you.

1. You can start from a profile only sheet seed file (like A1-Profile) and change the length (maybe also the height) to draw to be the total length of the alignment. Then, when you are on the sheet with a border that is not suitable, delete it. Hence, you can use the Sheet Boundary button (Drawing Production ribbon) to adjust the length of the sheet.
2. Usually model information is to be displayed on the profile model. Annotations must be done on the drawing model. Additional annotation related to the sheet can be done in the sheet. 
3. You can do sections at different offset (create profile command through surface). Actually you can't project COGO points (Geometry points) to the profile model to annotate information such as name, description, elevation, etc. You can use the points to define location for annotations on the profile. This is the even poins list.
4. If utilities are done using subsurface utilities, then you can project them to the profile and annotate them. The 3D cut on the profile model could also be used.
5. Actually profile model window doesn't allow annotation. So you must work with 2 windows (plan/profile) + civil accudraw (remember you can set the station on the plan to create something in the profile). However it is not always enough. A workaround is to create the drawing, annotate the drawing, and reference the drawing in the profile model.

jpln,

Thank you.  Your explanation and especially the video are a great help.  I was actually going to attempt the workaround you mentioned in #5 and continue to simply draw the required existing utility profiles.  I will have to look into actually modeling them at some point  though.

Josh

It is not difficult to create a Utilities model for your utilities in ORD.  They can then be displayed in plans, profiles, and cross-sections.  No need to do them manually, which you would then have to revise manually when designs inevitably change.  If you have the information to add them manually  then you also have the information to model them.  However, your WorkSpace will need the required DGN library for utility modeling with appropriate Feature Definitions, Feature Symbologies, Element Templates, as well as the 3D cell library.