ORD - Moved profile named boundary

I moved the profile named boundary in my container model with the "Adjust profile named boundary" tool.

When I go to my sheet drawing model and reannotate the profile the grid annotation doesn't update.

Is there a trick to get the file to recognize the new profile boundary and vertical alignment location?

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  • Hi Zane,

    This drives us nuts! You'll have to recreate the Drawing to get the Annotation Group to "see" the new position of the Named Boundary.

    Regards,

    Mark


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12)  |  Microstation 2023  |  ProjectWise CE 3.4

  • That's what I figured.  I already recreated the sheets.  

    I hope someday Bentley will gather info from professionals who have actually done drafting and plan production work on large civil products. Their products have potential to be great, but I think their programmers lack the knowledge of how civil plans are drafted and organized. 

    I really don't what 50 profile sheets with 50 grids and 50 alignment annotations to manage.  What if the links get messes up and I can't annotate the grid or vertical alignment.  ( I have had this happen).  Plus, I have to walk through 50 sheets files to check annotation and make edits.  When it should be one file.

    Here is an Idea .  Create all the profile views in one model and one file.  Just like InRoads and just like Civil 3d.  I can then create named boundaries in this file and reference them into me sheets.  

    Note to Bentley:  Sheet match lines and profiles views are constantly changing during the design process. We need to be able to adjust to that.

    Sorry for the rant , This software just makes me very nervous at times.  

    Regards,

    Zane Pratt


    Civil Designer

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  • That's what I figured.  I already recreated the sheets.  

    I hope someday Bentley will gather info from professionals who have actually done drafting and plan production work on large civil products. Their products have potential to be great, but I think their programmers lack the knowledge of how civil plans are drafted and organized. 

    I really don't what 50 profile sheets with 50 grids and 50 alignment annotations to manage.  What if the links get messes up and I can't annotate the grid or vertical alignment.  ( I have had this happen).  Plus, I have to walk through 50 sheets files to check annotation and make edits.  When it should be one file.

    Here is an Idea .  Create all the profile views in one model and one file.  Just like InRoads and just like Civil 3d.  I can then create named boundaries in this file and reference them into me sheets.  

    Note to Bentley:  Sheet match lines and profiles views are constantly changing during the design process. We need to be able to adjust to that.

    Sorry for the rant , This software just makes me very nervous at times.  

    Regards,

    Zane Pratt


    Civil Designer

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  • Yes, an actual profile design model that we can view as a whole, complete with annotations would be very, very helpful. This seems to be the biggest complaint about the sheet process - it comes up over and over again. It's certainly the part I like the least.

    We can manage the few annotations that would end up crossing sheets. Please give us options to use the tools to create our design the way WE want it, and we can manage what doesn't quite work out. Don't shoehorn us into a single way of working, and lock us out of anything else because your tools won't work "that way".

    The option right now would be to create your single "drawing model" of the entire profile, and then just manually reference the proper windows onto your sheets. More work, but it will get the job done. Since the named boundaries are actual elements in a design file, you may be able to create the ones to generate the limits for your individual sheets, but not use them directly. I need to play with the named boundaries and sheet creation more, but that may be the way we get it done.

    MaryB

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