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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/206441/ord---moved-profile-named-boundary</link><description>I moved the profile named boundary in my container model with the &amp;quot;Adjust profile named boundary&amp;quot; tool. 
 When I go to my sheet drawing model and reannotate the profile the grid annotation doesn&amp;#39;t update. 
 Is there a trick to get the file to recognize</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/752440?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:49:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:9d8b6c5a-ae38-4f1d-8f75-9934b2928767</guid><dc:creator>Zane Pratt</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Shawn,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As an update.&amp;nbsp; We have been using the large profile on several projects and has worked well. We do all of our annotation in one large profile drawing model and reference this file to the sheets.&amp;nbsp; Haven&amp;#39;t had any trouble , if a sheet matchline changes we just move a shape in the profile representing our sheet limits.&amp;nbsp; We may have to go into the sheet and adjust the reference but at least we have control and don&amp;#39;t have to be concerned about&amp;nbsp;creating new sheets or new named boundaries.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/752437?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:37:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:58250b7c-5fda-4f69-9112-9ab76c2d3864</guid><dc:creator>Shawn Cooke</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;To suggest a &amp;quot;Best Practice&amp;quot; more than an answer here, I think what Zane mentioned above ...&amp;quot;large drawing model&amp;quot; is what most are doing to get around this to some degree.&amp;nbsp; Michigan DOT has a plans production profile best practice video series discussing how their users accomplish a similar annotation involving the creation of saved views within an overall large drawing model to do the annotation.&amp;nbsp; That way if anything shifts, it falls within that overall clipped area where the labels are held.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://mdotwiki.state.mi.us/design/index.php/CONNECT_CAD_Basics#MDOT_Plan_Production"&gt;mdotwiki.state.mi.us/.../CONNECT_CAD_Basics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/752425?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 13:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:df660303-a875-49d3-861e-f6ff228dc8a7</guid><dc:creator>Josh M</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Short answer:&amp;nbsp; No. (2022 R1).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/752413?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 11:37:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:fd2b0cf0-aac1-4301-9a27-f5df6838c46b</guid><dc:creator>T T</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Does&amp;nbsp;the new ORD release have an option to move profile named boundaries horizontally?&amp;nbsp; It is a pain to manually move them in the 2021 release 2 version. So annoying.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/724335?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 22:51:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:cbee7654-73a4-4983-9656-c8b571f69c76</guid><dc:creator>Clint Young</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Kills spirits on a daily basis...wastes hours and hours...destroys profits...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This program is complete garbage but only a few people will say anything negative about it.&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t understand.&amp;nbsp; The time spent investigating workarounds and ways to exploit the export to V8i capability is substantial. And then they want to charge more for licensing for the older versions.&amp;nbsp; How about making the current platform better than the old ones?!? DOTs and, consequently, the end users, have been sold a bill of goods.&amp;nbsp; Bentley should be making their products work for us -&amp;nbsp; not the other way around.&amp;nbsp; Maybe they will start to listen when everyone starts to abandon their brand for one that hasn&amp;#39;t decided that it knows what&amp;#39;s best for the user.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/724321?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 18:16:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:4b2995e5-b57f-4e1c-b6d2-54099cf84366</guid><dc:creator>Matt Murphy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I might just have to do the same thing. So tired of using workarounds. This software program honestly kills my spirit on a daily basis. Do they not understand that we cut sheets early on for different submittals? These things change as the design moves forward. Not to mention the raw processing time for the simplest edits takes forever. Tired of it...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/724320?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 18:12:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:0e708ae5-46e3-4d43-9687-a612a21de510</guid><dc:creator>Zane Pratt</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Matt,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately,&amp;nbsp; Bentley doesn&amp;#39;t realize this is a problem.&amp;nbsp; I have brought it up the Bentley folks multiple times.&amp;nbsp; Their response is &amp;quot;why are your matchlines changing? They should be set when you cut sheets&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; It is mind blowing how little they understand about plan production.&amp;nbsp; On our latest ORD projects we had abandoned the whole ORD method of cutting sheets until they get these issues resolved.&amp;nbsp; Re-cutting sheets every time a matchline changes is just not an option on large projects.&amp;nbsp; Our profile sheet creation method now consists of creating a large drawing model profile and cutting sheets similar to v8i with scaled borders.&amp;nbsp; We still have some issues with level control but it works better then there current workflow.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/724319?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 17:51:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:12c4dccb-d3de-4be5-832a-935bd9d4d913</guid><dc:creator>Matt Murphy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Currently dealing with this same issue. I need to manually adjust some profile sheets vertically but this messes up the grid annotation. I guess I just have to manually move the grid and redo the datum labels on each sheet. Complete nightmare. I guess I just need to wait until the very last second to cut any kind of sheet. I mean matchlines and transitions are changing constantly and ORD gives the designer zero flexibility to change named boundaries after they&amp;#39;ve been created. I mean it is utterly ridiculous. So many hours wasted.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/644931?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:43:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:69d883ff-ab95-486d-b049-7d189a4d0434</guid><dc:creator>Josh M</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Has anyone figured out a way to move a profile named boundary horizontally and still get annotation to honor the new location?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I modified my plan named boundaries and slid them to a different station.&amp;nbsp; I then created profile profile boundaries tied to the plan group, but the profile limits don&amp;#39;t match my modified plan named boundaries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How is this supposed to work?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/622057?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2020 09:37:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:be192b73-0201-4d7d-9cbc-77246ed759b3</guid><dc:creator>Mariusz Heczko</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Zane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you actually try to move the named boundary by moving the attachment in the drawing model which is what I meant?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In your example based on your screenshot - assuming you have already deleted and re-annotated the drawing model - what you need to do is open that drawing model, then open the attachment dialog, select the attachment (there should be only one), activate move, for origin snap to point A (lower left corner of the named boundary) and then snap to point B (equivalent corner defined by the annotation graphics) - see my edits in the snapshot below.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariusz&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt=" " src="/resized-image/__size/1104x483/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/Move-NB-in-Drawing-Model.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621959?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:57:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:914e4e98-9600-4fab-b288-ec93c9c5c972</guid><dc:creator>Zane Pratt</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Mariusz&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reply.&amp;nbsp; But the grid annotation doesn&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;move to the new named boundary location for me. I moved the named boundary in the profile view then removed the model annotation and then reannotated the model. It still annotates to the old position even with the named boundary moved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621958?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:46:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:d371683c-b92f-415a-b538-acc47cabd602</guid><dc:creator>Mariusz Heczko</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Zane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After moving the named boundary in the profile view using either the &amp;quot;Adjust Profile Named Boundary&amp;quot; tool or normal MicroStation move tool and then in the corresponding drawing model after re-annotating the profile&amp;nbsp;you&amp;nbsp;should be able to adjust the position of the profile named boundary by &lt;strong&gt;moving the profile attachment&lt;/strong&gt; up or down to match its position to the annotation frame. The corresponding sheet will update automatically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would be great if the software could do this automatically though. Also, this method doesn&amp;#39;t seem to allow to move the named boundary horizontally (along the chainage) or to lengthen or shorten the boundary. However, you should be able to change the height of the named boundary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Similar method seem to work&amp;nbsp;for cross sections although I have problem with changing the widths of the named boundary as the annotation frame will not adjust its length. And even if you manage to manually stretch the annotation frame it will go back to the original length after next re-annotation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;nbsp;me know if this works in your setup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariusz&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621911?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:16:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:85cf6854-a1db-4e17-82a3-599c669d35d9</guid><dc:creator>MaryB</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, an actual profile design model that we can view as a whole, complete with annotations would be very, very helpful. This seems to be the biggest complaint about the sheet process - it comes up over and over again. It&amp;#39;s certainly the part I like the least.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We can manage the few annotations that would end up crossing sheets. Please give us options to use the tools to create our design the way WE want it, and we can manage what doesn&amp;#39;t quite work out. Don&amp;#39;t shoehorn us into a single way of working, and lock us out of anything else because your tools won&amp;#39;t work &amp;quot;that way&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The option right now would be to create your single &amp;quot;drawing model&amp;quot; of the entire profile, and then just manually reference the proper windows onto your sheets. More work, but it will get the job done. Since the named boundaries are actual elements in a design file, you may be able to create the ones to generate the limits for your individual sheets, but not use them directly. I need to play with the named boundaries and sheet creation more, but that may be the way we get it done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621904?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:38:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8400e776-ea69-497e-b31e-81797b637845</guid><dc:creator>Zane Pratt</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s what I figured.&amp;nbsp; I already recreated the sheets.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope someday Bentley will&amp;nbsp;gather info from professionals who have actually done&amp;nbsp;drafting and plan production work on large civil products. Their products have potential&amp;nbsp;to be great, but I think their programmers lack the knowledge of how civil plans are drafted and organized.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really don&amp;#39;t what 50 profile sheets with 50 grids and 50&amp;nbsp;alignment annotations&amp;nbsp;to manage.&amp;nbsp; What if the links get messes up and I can&amp;#39;t annotate the grid or vertical alignment.&amp;nbsp; ( I have had this happen).&amp;nbsp; Plus, I have to walk through 50 sheets files to check annotation and make edits.&amp;nbsp; When it should be one file.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is an Idea .&amp;nbsp; Create all the profile views in one model and one file.&amp;nbsp; Just like InRoads and just like Civil 3d.&amp;nbsp; I can then create named boundaries in this file and reference them into me sheets.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note to Bentley:&amp;nbsp; Sheet match lines and profiles views are constantly changing during the design process.&amp;nbsp;We need to be able to adjust to that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the rant , This software just makes me very nervous at times.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621890?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:55:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:57fa0012-56a8-4f91-9b59-6ecd48d057a8</guid><dc:creator>MaryB</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yet another reason to detest this new drawing model workflow...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621870?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:02:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:e09ce8aa-3ef9-4e0c-a5fd-2e8bdde1377e</guid><dc:creator>caddcop</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;InRoads use to place an empty text node with attribute data attached that it used to know everything about the profile frame. I wonder if ORD does anything along those lines?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ORD - Moved profile named boundary</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/621840?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:52:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:e0306648-a150-41eb-ba8d-0c64a9dc9b91</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Zane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This drives us nuts! You&amp;#39;ll have to recreate the Drawing to get the Annotation Group to &amp;quot;see&amp;quot; the new position of the Named Boundary.&lt;/p&gt;
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