We've migrated from MX to OpenRoads Designer and it seems we are in the same boat as many former MX users whereby the process to generate cross-sections in ORD is long and frustrating compared to MX. A cross-section run to produce annotated cross-sections at 10m intervals for a 10km stretch of road is taking close to a day (6-8 hours) when in MX it used to be a few minutes. Further to this, the resulting DGN is massive (700Mb), which is another problem for another post.
What I'd like to find out is if anyone knows how to access or extract the geometry information of the sections that have been cut? The element type is "Section Cut Graphics" which we can snap to and Microstation returns co-ordinates for (in the message center or AccuDraw read-out), essentially giving you an offset-elevation pair - but I can't seem to export the co-ordinates out?
We've tried different ways to export the cross-sections (merging files, clip masking, saving as, etc.) but they all take way too long, there must be a better/quicker way? We also have some CAD clean-ups/post-processing to do on the cross sections, hence our need to be able to manipulate them. My thinking is that even though these sections are dynamically cut through the 3D models (using Named Boundaries), in the cross-sectional view they are simply 2D linestrings or shapes depicting the component at each particular section - if we could find a way to access each sectioned component's XY information as displayed in the section model, it could be re-drawn as a simple but static CAD element.
Does anybody have any ideas how to do this using standard Microstation tools, or alternatively through VBA?
ORD 2020 R3 version 10.9.0.91
PowerDraft SS10 08.11.09.912
Thanks,
Chris
Chris - a cross section view is a clipped volume, so the graphics are not simple 2D 'strings'. Are you saying you want to get a report of the points, and then use some tool(s) to redraw the cross sections as plain graphics?
Hi Mark thanks for the clarification. Yes, in a nutshell that's what we're looking to do - as we have post-processing to do on the sections anyway, there isn't need for us to have dynamic sections (yet).
Regards,
OpenRoads Designer 2020 R3 Update 9 (10.09.00.91) | Microstation PowerDraft v8i SS10 (08.11.09.912) | Previous MX User
Christopher,
I'm curious as to whether you have found a successful workflow in the past year? I come from an Inroads background but have similar workflow limitations with ORD.
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
I believe the Cross Section Report in Home > Civil Analysis should provide this functionality.
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Mark
OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12) | Microstation 2023 | ProjectWise CE 3.4
I've used the method Mark describes below and it works well. Our native OpenRoads workspace doesn't actually show anything in the Report Browser, however if you look at the Raw XML (or save as XML) you can see all the data. This is the closest equivalent I can find to the old Cross Section Set Report (994) in MX.
Depending what XLST templates you're using with your reports (whether stock or custom made by someone in your organisation), I find the raw XML files contain a wealth of information that the standard pre-formatted reports don't include. They're nicely structured too, which makes working with them a pleasure.
Mark has also given some good feedback and insight into his cross-section workflow which is worth checking out so I think as a community we're making progress...